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I was recently discussing how you know about fires and realised my reply thread could be a blogpost, so here you are.

I am deaf enough that without hearing aids, and while I'm asleep I won't hear a fire alarm, not even if it's really loud. I didn't have access to deaf-accessible fire alarms till I was nearly 30.

UK: Free fire alerting installations by fire or social services
In the UK often local fire services or social services will fit deaf-accessible fire alarm systems for free. In our case, the service was so unreliable and they kept not turning up (if there's a fire, the fire service will just not show up). So we bought our own.

I am not naming brands cos I don't want to get sued by some corporate whatevers.

Domestic deaf fire alerting systems in the 2000s and why ours sucked
In about 2009 we bought a system with wireless detector units and a bedside unit which has a flasher and a vibrator to go under the pillow. The units all get paired with one another on a kind of wireless network. The one we had was a standard domestic product that happened to have flasher/vibrate units. I found the LED on the bedside flasher unit which controlled the vibrator unit obnoxiously bright, so we had to put tape over it to dim it (like many deaf people I'm hypersensitive to bright or flickering lights or LEDs).

We didn't like this system though cos we found that if one of the detectors fell off its wireless network, the unit by the bed would chirp and the LED would change colour and flash... Not very deaf-alerty. It woke my partner but didn't give helpful information like WHICH of the 5+ units was not connected.

We also found the battery life of the detector units was poor. They claimed average of 5 years but we weren't getting 2 on multiple units. When a unit failed, the unit would chirp and then all the others would chirp afterwards so it was hard to know which was the failed-chirp and which was an echo-chirp. this always happened in the middle of the night (when it got cold and the failing battery's voltage dropped). These chirping units did not keep any persistent-alert, so unless you could locate the sound of the failing unit by sound, you couldn't work out which unit didn't work properly.

Again, not deaf-safe. This was waking my partner (and by extension me) repeatedly night after night, as partner would be running round the house trying to hear which unit was fail-chirping amongst all the echo-chirping.

Super stressful and beyond useless. After spending too much money replacing units with poor battery life repeatedly we stopped using the system.

Geeky partner did a fire alerting that most people couldn't do
I'm lucky, my partner is an electronics and computer programming person. She bought a higher end commercial fire panel unit for a larger building and detector and other parts for this system with WIRES to detectors which have strobes in them. My partner used the strobe/vibrator unit from the old system and did the computer programming to wire and program the commercial fire system into our very home-brew alerting system (fail safe, so it runs without mains for a bit or if the alerting system goes down).

While it's not up to commercial standards and it cost about 2-3x the usual domestic deaf-friendly systems (especially the panel), it's a lot less stressful and much more reliable. It links to stuff like using our alerting system to make all our house lights come on at full brightness and we have bright blue LEDs and LED strips so it's "FIRE". The commercial system detectors are about 30% cheaper per unit than the previous system. All the detectors also have a strobe and our main alerting system has separate strobes everywhere including the bedroom. The bedroom strobes only go off for fire, nothing else. If there's an issue with any of the units, the central panel will display exactly which unit it has an issue with and it stays there till someone actively re-freshes it. We can turn off our house-alert strobes if a strobe-sensitive friend visits (or plonk something over the strober).

Not everyone can do this level of research, affording the system, wiring and programming.

Deaf friends had a different rubbish deafie fire alerting system in the 2000s
When I was a student, deaf friends of mine had a different domestic "deaf friendly" system to the one we had (and it was nearly 10 years earlier). Their system did wake them up, but it also false-alarmed so much that even after getting repairs it kept false alarming.

Eventually after several nights of poor sleep, one of them smashed the detectors and they "did without".

Portable deaf alert systems
There are portable deaf-fire-alarms which pick up the fire alarm sound and will trigger a strobe and or vibrator unit. These are common in hotels or university halls.

I haven't had good experiences with them though. I had to try one at a former job, it didn't go off in two separate buildings unless it was within 1m of the sounder - which rendered it useless. I know people who have used the unit I had in halls and it was also hypersensitive, going off with the noise of their shower in a small ensuite student room, even with the bathroom door closed which caused other issues.

In hotels, if you ask for the deaf alerter, more than 50% of the time the reception staff don't know what you are talking about. Or if they do give you the unit, there's no instructions and often it has no batteries or flat batteries in it. The unit I'm thinking of used C or D type of batteries which aren't always that easy to find in a hurry, say late at night when you arrive at a hotel. I don't bother anymore cos I just can't face the hassle cos it's hassle and anxiety in advance "will they have one that I've booked", will they force me into a disabled room which doesn't have a bath (I need a bath) and will that cost me extra? And or hassle and anxiety trying to hear a stranger to get the unit and or batteries who probably can't help cos the corporate system stinks. I can Google instructions.

Crap systems are often worse than no system
Systems that don't alert to faults in a deaf-aware way are dangerous - not all deaf people share houses with hearing people.

False alarming is dangerous, it trains people to ignore the danger signs.

Systems that are unreliable and or do not last as long as they claim are dangerous. It's too hard to complain all the time. Easier just not to bother. Maybe the system my friends and I had are better now, I don't know, we don't use them.

Anywhere that uses the portable deaf alerters are legally obliged to train staff on their use and make sure they work reliably in the environments they are used in. I should encourage deaf people to assert our rights. I haven't stayed alone in a hotel alone for over 1800 days (thanks Covid!) so it's not been a battle I needed to pick...

Workplace fire alerting - can be a battle
Workplaces can often put a strobing unit in the same place a fire alarm sounder goes, OR they can easily wire in another unit for a deaf person.

Unfortunately in 2014 the law changed so that in an open plan space, if one unit has a strober, they ALL have to have a strober, which can cause access-clashes for people sensitive to strobers (even tho they should be able to use a non epilepsy triggering frequency). This can cause issues in open plan spaces. I don't understand this law and feel it is yet another case of not coproducing with deaf people properly and just assuming we'll tolerate badness or suffer bad solutions.

Many larger employers want deaf people to have a pager that vibrates. I will not use one of these systems (see below) cos as well as bad experiences, they individualise the fire alerting to the deaf person. They create a burden of deaf-person remembering to have the pager on them, the deaf person remembering to charge it, the deaf person ensuring it doesn't fall down the loo etc.

Workplace systems that rely on another person are very bad and should not be used as routine. I know several deaf people who had a "buddy" who was then not in or forgot on the day the alarm went off, everyone evacuated and the deaf person did not realise until later. That's a horrible and dangerous situation!

I don't know what the answer to open plan non-pager alerting is as I haven't yet had to deal with it. I anticipate "unfun" cos I won't use a pager and employers will want me to use a pager.

Some of my experiences of workplace fire alerting
In one job where there were open plan with 200+ people on each floor, there was a brilliantly comprehensive fire system which worked really well - it was for anyone who couldn't evac typically, not just disabled but was significantly pregnant, injured etc. All by self-declaration. You were encouraged to self-declare for known reasons in advance and got shown round. The system was SO good a non disabled colleague who hurt his leg the day before, just used the refuge system cos he knew it was there was there was zero stigma and positive encouragement to use it.

Another job it took the employer over 5 years from disclosure to installing a working system. I had to give permission to ManagerTwit to share my deafness with 4 people but ManagerTwit who told those 4 people, told them "Natalya will contact you". When I arrived, I asked about fire alerting and no one knew who the 4 people were. ManagerTwit worked in a different building, everyone was scared of, or disliked them. I was given a fire-safety tour by EstatesTwit alongside 2 new starter colleagues, but I couldn't understand EstatesTwit's accent, he wouldn't speak up or slow down and we were walked at high speed round this unfamiliar building. I asked about the alarm sound and was told "It's really loud, you'll be fine". I explained how deaf I am and got told "the alarms are 60dB it's fine". I explained again I can't hear 60dB at any frequency without my hearing aid. I asked for a bell-test and this was just ignored and refused a lot.

I kept asking but the bad manager, HR and Estates all buckpassed and I was bullied repeatedly by HR for "not sorting it out" even when I showed proof of following their instructions to ask Estates. I got a nicer manager and they tried but they and their manager also got stonewalled and gaslighted at every turn.

The first time I heard the alarm, I thought it was Yet Another Pneumatic Drill outside the building. I only realised it was the fire alarm cos the colleague I happened to be talking to white with fear. We evacuated. The bell sound was actually better for most deafies as it was a lower frequency sound like a bell, not higher frequency like sirens tend to be. More deaf people have better lower than higher frequencies (especially cos age related deafness is usually higher frequencies first).

We had 3 actual fires in the building over the next few years, a few toast/oven burning incidents in the kitchen and then a faulty heater in someone's office. After the last incident I made a last ditch attempt to get something. The only option was to try a portable system, which didn't work...

I got really fed up and my nice local managers were equally flummoxed. So I wrote a threatening legal letter (effectively a Letter Before Action) to the director of Estates asking for an alarm within a month or I'd sue, tell the Health and Safety Executive and the local fire service. This threat letter worked well, I got prompt director of estates responses, apologies, requests for information to see where things had gone wrong and two men measuring up within 2 days. The flashing unit with sound was installed within 2 weeks and did work.

The installer guy was lovely, he let me listen to all the sound options to choose the best one. I later found out they got it through so quickly cos unlike every other purchase which requires purchase order number requests, layers of approvals and then whatevers, the Director told the frontline installers "Get It Done, paperwork later" and they had a flashing sounder ON THE SHELF...

Pagers and why I hate them
In another office, I couldn't have a wired in strober cos it was open plan and the law doesn't allow just 1 strober. I got told to have a vibrating pager... I went to collect a pager from the building reception. No battery in it. Awful confusing instructions. I happened to have batteries so I sorted that.

The pager went off with every single fire-alarm test in every single building across my employer's estate which had 30+ buildings. This involved vibrating alerts every morning for 2 hours at least. I left the pager on my desk when going to a half-day meeting, it buzzed and buzzed and buzzed. My colleagues eventually yoinked the battery.

Sources of deaf alertery things
I highly rate Connevans for deaf gadgets of all kinds including deaf friendly fire alerting. It looks like RNID wound down their shop and direct people to Connevans. https://www.connevans.co.uk/catalogue/11/Deaf-Equipment

If you are in employment, ask your estates department and if they don't help quickly, then try HR. If that doesn't work, write a complaint to the "Director of Estates" explaining your issue politely and asking for a fix within 4 weeks or you will complain to the Health and Safety Executive (HSE), Fire Service and raise a disability discrimination grievance. I have helped several people do this, especially after they've been forgotten during evacuations and it has worked every time.
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Reliable verbatim Speech to Text Reporting (STTR) for live events

TLDR: If you are looking for accurate and quality live captioning for events and conferences then you NEED to request NRCPD registered 'Speech to Text Reporters (STTR)' formerly known as palantypists.

Please do not use 'respeaking' it is not quick enough, accurate enough or fit for live captioning work.

(This blog originally written in 2018, updated in December 2020)

Skip to how to book genuine STTR.

My focus on captioning for deaf people

While I know captioning is useful for many groups, I speak from a deaf perspective. Deaf people may not have had access to the audio, or only partial access. If there are errors, deaf people may not notice or realise they are there and will come away with an incorrect understanding of what was said.

What is the difference between Speech to Text Reporting (STTR) and Respeaking for captions

Speech to Text Reporting (STTR)

Speech to Text Reporters known as STTR operators use a specialist keyboard (palantype or stenograph) and software so they can input words phonetically and have them show up as actual words on a screen. STTR ops can produce 200-300 words per minute at 98% accuracy. Slightly lower accuracy rates may seem reasonable, but at more than 2-3% errors the intelligibility of the captions decreases and the risk of errors changing meaning increases a lot. Errors are usually very obvious and occur most in people's names and specialist words. Providing STTR operators with preparation materials in advance which include people's names and specialist words reduces the error rate and increases their speed considerably.

STTR ops are registered with organisations like NRCPD (National Registers of Communication Professionals working with Deaf and Deafblind people) who require members to provide proof of their qualifications, undergo training including in ethics of communication support for deaf people and have a have a code of conduct/ethics as well as other things.

Respeaking

Respeakers work in pairs with one respeaker listening to what is said and re-speaking it into specialist software which they have trained to their speech, and the second respeaker going back to correct errors. Every 15 minutes they switch roles to rest their voices.

The accuracy rate of respeaking is lower and errors are less obvious as they tend to just miss out words entirely or substitute the correct word with another word which may not obviously look out of place. Respeakers can't go as fast as 200 words per minute. The slowness means they lag more and more behind the speaker which makes it harder for deaf users to follow. Respeaking often ends up (without indicating they're doing it) skipping entire sentences or paragraphs when they get too far behind the speaker and try to catch up.

Respeakers have no professional registration and no guarantee of being trained about the importance of their role to represent speech correctly for those who otherwise do not have access to the audio. Respeaking is better used for captioning non-live content where someone can listen and correct the captions better afterwards and speed is less important.

Why am I writing about live captioning?

Today I tried to access a livestream of a disability conference about ableism (disablism) in academia. I saw the caption provider and my heart sank...

Respeaking...

This article about respeaking covers many of the issues

Respeaking errors

I listened carefully to 5 minutes of audio and even I as a partially deaf person picked up multiple errors including:

  • Entire sentences which I half-heard didn't show up at all in the captions.

  • There were several occasions where single words were just missed out.

  • At one point the word "sensitive" was captioned as "intensive". That's a massive change to the meaning of what the speaker was saying.

  • Another error was an academic's 'principle' "Frank's remission society" was mis-captioned as "part of the remission society" removing the academic's name and work which was effectively an inline citation which was a critical shortcut to the meaning.

Complaining to the conference organisers

I tweeted some complaints about the quality of the captioning and it turns out the conference organisers weren't happy either! They had provided full scripts in advance which would definitely have helped STTR operators and should have helped respeakers.

Of course by the time issues are detected on the day, it's too late. The conference organisers are unhappy. The people relying on captions are unhappy.

Conference organisers don't know the field of "live captioning" support" so are at risk of being scammed or ripped off by agencies which only actually provide poor quality captions. Cost isn't even an issue here as respeaking costs the same or often more than genuine STTR.

How can I book reliable quality STTR?

STTR can be provided in-person or remotely. In person is best for live conferences and often not more expensive for half or whole day events. For anything lasting more than an hour or so, two STTR operators will be needed "co working" because of the demands of the work.

Remote can work well for webinars and very short events but is less good for on the ground events as they lose visual context. There are risks around managing technology to transmit the event audio to the captioner and maintain suitable internet connectivity.

There are two main ways of booking STTR (in person, or remote).

Go directly to STTR Operators

The Association of Verbatim Speech to Text Reporters (AVSTTR) (pronounced Av-Ster) website has options to
1) "Book a reporter" which puts out a general enquiry to everyone in their organisation or
2) "Our reporters" which shows individuals and where they are based so you can contact them directly and see if they are available for your event.

AVSTTR members are all registered with NRCPD and reliable. STTR operators prefer to be contacted directly and you may be able to get better rates.

AVSTTR website contains lots of useful information about STTR as a service.

Go to an agency for STTR operators

Often organisations have procurement rules or it can be easier to use an agency.

However BEWARE some agencies may appear professional, experienced and competent, but in practice frequently provide a very poor captioning service like happened at the conference above. One agency I will not use is AiMedia - who wrecked the above conference and at least 3 other events by sneaking in respeaking instead of STTR; sometimes even when STTR was actually requested.

If I use an agency, I ALWAYS go to either:
  • 121Captions who are deaf-led by Tina Lannin who uses STTR herself and have served me well for over 7 years now.

  • or
  • MyClearText who are STTR-operator "writer" led by people who used to do decent captioning for the BBC.


  • 121Captions and MyClearText websites contain lots of useful information about STTR/live captioning as a service.

    There is a great film by some American STTRs (called CART) about the technology and STTR writer expertise behind everything they do. Audio description due soon and will be linked when available.

    Go back to top of this blogpost.
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    Four main modes for using a relay service.


    I have explained the basics of how textphones and relay works including calling-out info in my post Deaf and speech impaired people's access to telephones which you should read before this post.

    This post has been edited to reflect changes since 2014 with the introduction of BT's Next Generation Text-Relay, known as NGT but probably needs restructuring entirely to make more sense.

    This post explains a little bit more about the roles the caller, relay operator and recipient make in three different types of call using relay.
    Textphone to Telephone
    Voice Carry Over (VCO)
    Hearing Carry Over (HCO)
    Textphone to Textphone via TextRelay

    1. Textphone to Telephone via TextRelay


    This is one of the most common ways of using a relay service with the relay operator typing for the textphone user and speaking for the telephone user.



    1. The textphone user types their words out on a textphone which are read by the relay operator to the telephone user.
    2. The telephone user hears the relay operator speaking on their phone handset and once it is their turn to speak speaks their reply back to the relay operator.
    3. Relay operator types out the telephone user's spoken reply as best as they can (but they aren't verbatim typists) which appears as text on the textphone user's screen.

    Each person has to say Go Ahead or "over" or type GA (GA means go ahead) to end their turn and allow the other person to speak or type. Calls are ended with SK SK which means "stop keying" from telegraphy. There are other shortcodes in varying levels of use e.g Plz, thx.

    Since the introduction of NGT Lite in 2014 most computers running Windows, MacOS, or linux, or tablets and smartphones running iOS or Android can act like a textphone.

    Historically hardware textphone users could not access the audio of the call. Since NGT was introduced the user may now be able to access the audio during the call. The telephone users still cannot see the typed words.

    2. Voice Carry Over (VCO)


    Voice carry over (VCO) mode is usually used by people who cannot hear but wish to speak for themselves. This requires a textphone which has a handset like one of the ones below or NGT-Lite software.

    Uniphone user using the textphone in voice carry over mode                 Screenphone user using textphone in voice carry over mode

    The first image shows a woman using a Uniphone branded textphone holding the handset in the usual way but reading the relayed text from the screen.

    The second image shows a woman using a Screenphone which does not have a keyboard but has a larger screen. The close up zoom in of the screen shows the words "Hello Geoff, how are you today".




    The textphone user speaks (voices) for themselves into their textphone or telephone handset. The telephone user can hear the textphone user speaking as usual but cannot just reply instantly as usual. When the textphone user has finished speaking they have to let the operator know they've finished by saying Go Ahead. This is an improvement on the old-textphone-system where a button had to be pressed with a 1-2 second 'change over time'.

    When the telephone user has finished speaking they say "Go ahead" or "over" and the relay operator will let the deaf person know they can now speak again.

    Historically textphone users could not access the audio of the call, but that has now changed with NGT. NGT was designed with the intention of encouraging more people to use voice carry over mode although I am not sure this has happened in practice.

    3. Hearing Carry Over




    Hearing Carry Over (HCO) is usually used by people who cannot or do not wish to speak but can hear what is said. Like with voice carry over this requires a textphone with a handset or NGT Lite.

    The textphone user types what they wish to say and the relay operator speaks this to the telephone user. When the textphone user has finished typing they type GA so the operator knows to tell the other person they can speak and be heard by the speech impaired caller. When the telephone user has finished speaking they say "go ahead" or "over" and the textphone user will know it is their turn to type again.

    NGT has eliminated the 1-2 second mode switching.

    4. Textphone to Textphone (with and without relay)




    The call connects with each textphone connecting by BT Text Direct (service provider of TextRelay)'s servers.

    These days deaf people tend not to use textphone to textphone to communicate with one another as it has been superseded by SMS, text and video chat of various kinds etc.

    The main reasons people will use this mode are to get the 60% call rebate; get clearer call progress messages and if their textphone isn't compatible with the other person's (TextRelay eliminates this issue).
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    How do you say that again?
    Many people struggle to pronounce words including people in the following situations:
  • If you have only ever seen the word written down.
  • English is not your native language.
  • If you have any kind of hearing loss (deafness).
  • If you have dyslexia or similar which can make it harder for you to break down words.

    Google's define pronunciations
    If you type "Define:WORD" into Google's search box you sometimes get a speaker symbol which provides a pronunciation alongside the definition and meaning of the word. The pronunciation is usually in US English but is occasionally in a British English format. It doesn't always make it clear there are differences or multiple acceptable variants.

    International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) symbols
    Many dictionaries provide IPA phonetic symbols to guide the user in the word's pronunciation but it requires training to understand and remains difficult for people with reading difficulties.

    For example the IPA for the word Advertisement renders as

    for the UK/British and US/North American pronunciations.

    Online dictionaries with British pronunciation guides
    I found some online dictionaries which provide human voices reading out British word pronunciations.

    I have listed them below:
    1) Cambridge Dictionaries Online
    2) Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
    3) Macmillan dictionary
    4) http://howjsay.com
    I also found one which covers translation of words from one language to another with pronunciation guides

    5) Dict.CC

  • All three dictionaries are using human1 recorded voices.
  • All autocomplete words in the searchbox (sometimes unreliable) and provide their own word definitions.
  • I think the Oxford and Cambridge dictionaries are pretty similar so that may come down to individual preference.
  • Macmillan has the least cluttered interface.



     Macmillan Dictionary
    Found at http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/
  • The default pronunciation is British English with an additional North American English pronunciation button available if there is a pronunciation difference for that

  • Image of results from macmillan for cerebral


     Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
    Found at http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com.
  • Click the red speaker icons labelled BrE for British English and NAmE for North American English pronunciations.
  • Other Oxford dictionary services can clutter up the screen but definitions are comprehensive and sometimes have a usage note providing more detail.
    search result for garage on oxford advanced learners dictionary


     Cambridge Dictionaries Online
    Found at http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british
  • Click the red speaker icon for British English and blue speaker icon for North American English pronunciations.
  • The full screen of the results can be a bit cluttered with ads and semi-related dictionary material but the definitions are comprehensive.
    Image of the search results from Cambridge online dictionaries for advertisement


     Dict.cc found at http://www.dict.cc/
  • Select appropriate languages in the drop down

  • Results will mix UK, USA and other English forms e.g. Australian pronunciations in but can be distinguished by flags

  • Provides examples of words in grammatical context with appropriate translations

  • image of the search results from dict dot cc for the word 'advertisement'



    I hope you will find these helpful.

    * Thanks to Red for testing the pronunciation voices and telling me that they're all human - I couldn't quite tell.
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    A few days ago a sudden announcement by Mark Harper minister for Disabled People appeared. It outlined some changes to Access to Work (AtW) the government scheme to assess and fund some of disabled people's support needs in the workplace in order to include us fully in society.

    £1 into AtW = £1.48 out to economy
    Before I criticise this latest cut to AtW - it is important to keep in mind that in 2005 government research showed that for every £1 spent on AtW that the treasury found the economy benefited by £1.48 due to disabled people being able to contribute to tax compared to having to claim unemployment benefits and other people being employed to work for and with disabled employees.

    The two main concerns I have are:
    1) The £40,800 cap on AtW awards per year.
    2) The linking of eligibility to AtW for self-employed people to Universal Credit rules.

    The cap, who it affects and why
    The cap will affect less than 1% of AtW users who need the kind of support which cannot currently be entirely or reliably provided by technology to do their work to a high standard like a non-disabled person.

    This is likely to be some Deaf/HOH people needing high amounts of "communication support" including:
  • British Sign Language (BSL)/English interpreters,
  • Speech to Text Reporters (STTRs),
  • Lipspeakers,
  • Electronic Notetakers
    (Unless specified "communication support" in this post means any or all of these).

    This will also affect disabled people with severe or multiple impairments who
    may require a variety of solutions which cost-wise add up to more than the cap.. Deafblind people for example might need communication support AND other support such as travel.

    Communication support - why is it so expensive?
    It isn't just anyone who can provide high quality communication support for deaf, HOH and deafblind people. Training to become a communication support professional takes 5-10 years with them having to meet high language and accuracy standards. Suggestions in the announcement that the government will implement translation services frameworks are worrying when various professional communication support workers' groups believe the standards will be forgotten in order to cut costs.

    I personally have had cheaper services provided to me instead of STTR. BSL users often get fobbed off with people who have no BSL/English interpreting qualifications and sometimes almost no signing skills. Deaf people are often ignored or dismissed when we try to explain that the "professional" that has been booked for us is not appropriate. It is vital that the quality of our professionals are not dumbed down.

    There are fewer than 25 STTR operators and 25 lipspeakers in the UK so they often have to travel and stay overnight in hotel accommodation to work for their clients. Deaf BSL users in rural areas may live some distance from their nearest BSL/English interpreters. These factors both add to the cost. It is really only people living in London who don't regularly have travel as an issue. I'm in Birmingham and my nearest STTR ops and Electronic notetaker is 90-120 mins away.

    It's 2015 can't Communication Support work remotely over the internet
    There is also a fear that many deaf people will be pushed to use cheaper remote services. There is a place for video relay for BSL or remote STTR and electronic notetaking but they are only appropriate for some situations and quality can be reduced. I doubt it is even possible to do lipspeaking or hands on signing remotely.

    Remote BSL/English and STTR also have issues of managing the technology at the user's end:
  • Getting high quality audio from the speaker to the communication professional via fast/reliable Internet connection.
  • A way of viewing the sign or captions that are produced.

    Sounds simple? Despite being a techie I haven't yet worked out how to do remote STTR reliably!

    Remote service provision also has latency issues, ESPECIALLY when using cellular Internet connections:
  • Time for audio from speaker to reach communication professional
  • Time for video or captions to reach the deaf person

    An extra second or two doesn't seem like much, but it makes a huge difference to the intelligibility and ability to follow the speech in real-time.

    I can't comment heavily on remote BSL services but signing friends say they are much less good and they should be listened to!

    Deaf people need to be able to use their strongest communication method
    I am also worried that as STTR is more expensive per hour than BSL that in future people will be pushed to use BSL even if sign is not their strongest language. Or when it seems more convenient to use text methods that BSL users will be expected to use them instead of BSL.

    Can't you just get the hearing folk to type?
    I also know of deaf people pushed to use a "manual typing system" which requires colleagues or clients to type to them. Most deaf people can and will use typing or writing at times to overcome hearing people's inability to communicate in BSL or with clear lip patterns, but it's low quality communication and is not appropriate for anything other than basic conversations!

    Most people speak at around 200 words per minute but even professional typists can only type at around 50 words per minute. In my experience most hearing people type REALLY slowly which is boring! BSL is an entirely different language from English, which is why we have BSL/English interpreters.

    Self employed - you'd better not be part time, or have a low income if you want Access to Work!
    The linking of self-employment Access to Work funding with Universal Credit sounds good in words alone, but this becomes linked to minimum hourly earnings and minimum number of hours worked in the self-employment. I don't really know much about this but Alison writing as @deaf on twitter and Facebook has written more about this and I've tried to do a bit of reading myself but honestly got lost in Jobcentre Bureaucratese.

    It seems that Universal Credit has a number of issues which Johny Void outlines. If you're not earning enough in your self-employment you will be deemed to not be working enough hours and forced to deal with jobcentre hideous disablism and become ineligible for Access to Work. I also don't know how this is going to work for disabled people who have part-time businesses and used to be able to get AtW to assist them in equality for those.

    Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment
    Some deaf and disabled people will get Personal Independence Payment so may be OK with AtW and eligibility but others such as those who are just deaf often can't get Personal Independence Payment so will have to work more hours to get the same eligibility... How is that fair?

    Sacrifice the few for the many - apparently
    The narrative around this 1% is that the needs of the few are being sacrificed to free up money for "mental health interventions" and the "many" rather than more money being put into services to focus on mental health support systems.

    ETA: I don't know if those affected by the Universal Credit eligibility rules means that those affected is higher than 1%. I suspect it is. I will try and find data/%.

    This narrative relies on people thinking £40,800 is a lot of money and that it's not unreasonable to have a hard limit or only support those working 'full time'... I think this is also a focus on people whose support needs can be resolved with one-off interventions and a narrative that anyone who needs ongoing support is "too demanding" "too needy" "too expensive" and "can no longer be afforded". This was already covered in the Snowdon Trust's 2013 A shared view survey report about Disabled Students' Allowances caps which have very similar issues to the AtW ones.

    This announcement changes Access to Work from principled equality to a cost-prioritised system where equality is conditional. There were legitimate requests for an arbitration panel to cover those people with high-cost awards as there might be very good reasons such as multiple-impairments, or high demand jobs like being the leader of an organisation so having long hours and high costs but this seems to have been ignored. There is no right of appeal from Access to Work as it's not a right or entitlement but reframed as a "benefit" which is claimed by shirkers and scroungers!

    As a deaf and disabled person I am SICK of being told: "you are too expensive"!

    I'm not directly affected now/yet, because I only need occasional STTR at the moment but I am already feeling scared to push my career in directions of my purported-strengths because I fear I won't be able to manage and sustain the communication support that I will need to perform to a high standard and not become ill from audio-overload. It would only take 12 hours a week of remote-STTR or 6 in-person STTR for me to max that cap.

    And don't believe for a second most employers can afford, or are willing to pick up the remaining costs - cos they won't. Employers already discriminate in recruitment of disabled people and this will worsen. Where a disabled person is employed they will be told they can't have the support, have to use cheaper/inferior alternatives and not have the support they need to perform to their best ability. Disabled students sometimes have to use cheaper/inferior alternatives now due to DSA caps. AtW caps will further limit deaf and disabled people's ability to develop and progress within the workplace!

    I have written to my MP this evening to ask him to challenge the government about this and at least bring back in an arbitration panel for people who feel the decision is unfair but I honestly don't know what else I can do other than ask others to write to their MPs and the DWP.

    Do we need to ask for an impact assessment here? Can we challenge this legally? Judicial review somehow?

    Other reactions to the Access to Work cuts in no particular order
    British Deaf Association (BDA) (BSL + English): https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=868566606538995

    Alison Bryan (English): http://www.twitter.com/deaf

    National Deaf Children's Society (NDCS) (English): http://www.ndcs.org.uk/for_the_media/press_releases/statement_in_4.html

    Disability News Service (English): http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/access-to-work-plans-for-new-cap-on-awards-is-huge-concern/

    Stop Changes to Access to Work (English): https://stopchanges2atw.wordpress.com/2015/03/12/stop-changes-to-access-to-work-response-to-ministerial-statement/

    Neil Crowther (English): https://makingrightsmakesense.wordpress.com/2015/03/12/a-cap-on-talent/
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    This is my rambly thoughts about the Grayson Perry Who Are You programme episode 3 which is at http://www.channel4.com/programmes/grayson-perry-who-are-you/on-demand/55337-003 until about 2nd December 2014. The deaf bit starts about 27 mins in, after the 2nd ad break.

    I'm intrigued by how different people have parsed this programme, both those with some experience of signing deaf people and those who don't. I think Deaf signers can be perceived as more "shouty" than they actually are by non-signers. A hearing friend who doesn't sign has said how he didn't always realise who was speaking whether it was Tomato, Paula or someone else (the terp and that terps don't say anything for themselves in this context) and it wasn't always clear who was saying what and made things very confused. Some visual cueing or better camerawork would have helped with this.

    I think overall Grayson has managed to grok a lot of complex issues around Deaf signing identity (and incidentally other deafness and disability issues too) in a very short programme, there was only about 15 minutes of footage dedicated to this segment.

    My BSL (rusty level 2 with horrible SSEish grammar) isn't very fluent for pure language vocab/grammar but using the English subs I was able to get the main meaning and use the BSL (where we could see it) for tone, context and personality of the signers. I missed a bunch of stuff hearies picked up from the terp's voice over which I just kinda ignored (I can hear them, but they're not important, the text was better).



    I don't like the first scene with whoopy music accompanying the signing deaf people in groups which are filmed in a way which means you can't even parse the sign and it's just hands and faces flapping about. It's like they're trying to do some "they can't hear isn't that strange" effect to match the whoopy visuals of the signing and succeeded in making me dizzy and feel sick...

    Nice to be able to watch Paula, Tomato, the children and the other Deaf people signing although I would have liked it if the whole thing was filmed in an easier to follow BSL kinda way cos there were times I couldn't follow the sign cos of camera angles and stuff.

    In the audiology scene, I am struck by the audiologist having quite a strong foreign accent and actually being very hard to understand. And how much outsiders Paula and Tomato seem to be in that space, only "referenced" if someone is actually talking TO them. It feels like they're not fully included in that space - they are outsiders - and audiology looking at Hazel (the younger kid) like she's an Alien or something. It feels like the audiologist is describing Hazel in terms that Paula and Tomato don't really recognise. I'll also note how well behaved the older kid Molly is, she sits still eating her snack and is watching watching. Actually so is Hazel, wide eyed, very still, watching. Too many people in the room to do a good hearing test though, too much visual distraction error!

    Tomato talking about his experience of audiology was very interesting, it's not one I share. I am fascinating by the inherently hearie-centric "listen hard" type language used to him as a child which he didn't understand. I laughed (wryly) at the epic fail of audiology giving so many visual clues to when they are beeping the beeper - that's a narrative I've heard a lot from many deaf and HOH people as children (including an ex audiologist who was HOH as a child - not sure if as adult too). Tomato talks of being a child having his hearing tested and trying to meet his parents' expectations. The fear and worry about letting them down, disappointing them and how happy they seemed to be when he indicated 'I've heard that' even when he hadn't heard anything, but he recognised that he had pleased them.

    I too remember totally knowing when the audiologists were generating the sounds, my mum's facial expression - especially when she could hear stuff I can't, the tension in the room changing, lights reflecting off things and other things I cant name. As an adult I have to consciously shut off the visual cues when having my hearing tested because I already false positive cos of tinnitus which mimics audiometer tones. It's been an interesting experience watching my mum have her hearing tested after sudden onset unilateral deafness last year - we both grin at the role-reversal, my turn to be the observer.

    I don't remember feeling as a child when I had my hearing tested that I had to indicate "I've heard" when I knew they'd set off a sound, somehow (I don't know how) it was OK for me to ignore the visual clues and only indicate when I actually heard something. I used to tell my mum I could tell without sound and she suggested I closed my eyes, and sat with my back to the audiologist and or her. She very much confirmed I only had to indicate when I heard the sound and that they should test properly till we worked out where my levels were. I can't honestly remember hearing tests before they used a clicker but I know I had them cos I've got the audiograms from age 3 somewhere.

    Then again, my deafness was not a devastation to my parents. I was born with multiple health issues, some of which were very life-threatening for a short while and others which were complex medical issues in a baby and other lifelong disabilities. My parents worked out that I was deaf by the time I was 8 months old despite an ENT doc claiming I wouldn't be deaf without even checking (even tho people with Microtia and Atresia are often deaf!). It was my parents who noticed my deaf behaviours and pushed for a 'diagnosis' as it were. Their reaction upon my deafness being confirmed, especially my mum's was to learn everything she could about deafness. She fought TheAuthorities for access to medical libraries and attended NDCS conferences and did everything she could to understand what a hearing aid would involve and what my experience of it might be like. I need to see if she's still got the letters she wrote to my grandpa with diagrams of hearing aids and explanations of how sound might sound to me. She and my granddad wrote letters to one another discussing sign language but with my hand impairment, ongoing medical stuff and Manchester being a hotbed of oralism they decided to keep that on the backburner... My mum has never been threatened by my learning sign, whether that was fingerspelling as a child or BSL classes when I went to university.

    I am intrigued by a partial shared experience of childhood audiology but very different parental expectations transmitted and received by Tomato vs myself. I can see how feeling you've failed your parents is so psychologically traumatic. I wonder how common each of our experiences are in deaf and HOH from childhood people.

    I quite like Grayson's brief summary of BSL as a language and focal point of culture - it was very coherent for such a short narration. The segue into the hearing aid covers bit where Grayson shows Tomato's metallic, silver and spiky hearing aid covers was a bit annoying. Grayson photographs these and interprets it as "I am deaf and I am proud". I wonder if that is how Tomato means it, or whether it's something else. I want to steal the design idea - I will tweet and ask Tomato if he minds! My BAHAs would look ace with silver spiky covers. I'm pretty lazy about decorating my BAHAs.

    The scene with the friends was interesting, I recognise Fifi who I think is Paula's sister and Paddy Ladd who the older guy with the beard but not the other two people. I absolutely loved what Fifi said "I'm really sorry, Grayson. You're hearing, so I don't mean to offend you, but I feel like we're constantly trying to please hearing people and fit in with what hearing people want. And deaf people have to put up with really an appalling education system, because people can't be bothered to learn to sign." I relate to that as someone for whom oralism could be deemed a success. It is all about D/deaf people making all the effort, we have to listen, lipread, use hearing aids, constantly strain to hear on hearing people's terms.

    Sign languages are more on our (deaf people's) terms and hearing people can access it just as much. Tomato chipping in to say that the militants are the hearing people made me laugh out loud. Hearing people in my experience DO only want deaf people to learn how to speak (note not hear, but SPEAK) and not acquire or use a sign language. Why does everyone care how we speak! Paddy chips in to say that deaf people are ignored and neglected, our language (sign language) is neglected. He says that if the group can teach Grayson how important sign language is, they wonder what else they can teach him. Interestingly I know Tomato was bought up Oral as was Paddy. I don't know about Paula and Fifi (I think they might have been oral too based on later scenes) or the other two who don't say anything.

    I was a little bit wary of start of the next scene with the Deaf vs Jewish - the two identities were 'set up' against one another. I think Grayson's comment about "history of victimhood" was bang out of order and somewhat bizarre. However this scene was one of the ones which got to me the most. Paula's mum talking to Paula mostly in English with a few signs, she's clearly tried to learn if not very well. It was interesting watching the body language between Paula and her mum, obviously this is an edited clip, possibly a repeatedly rehashed "old argument" with a worn out script but don't all/many families (of origin?) have those.

    Paula had a fair few minutes of camera time where she signed very powerfully about how her sign language was her culture and how much it helped her when 'before' (so I presume she's a later learning BSLer?) she was anorexic and depressed. "If I didn't have my language I wouldn't be here" which I wasn't wasn't sure how to parse that, whether as a 'suicidal' type thing, or an identity thing of her personhood was created, expressed and contextualised through sign language.

    Sign language helped Paula understand the world and herself better. I'm not a very good signer, I am out of practice cos I don't socialise much with BSLers in person, my arm impairments limit how much I can sign without pain these days and I am crap at putting the work in to bash grammar into my head. BUT learning BSL even to the limited level that I have, is one of the BEST things I have ever done. Within months of starting my level 1 classes my mum commented to me that my confidence seemed to have gone up and far from damaging my hearing or speech as an audiologist claimed it made my speech even better, increased my "tonality" and has helped me with a lot of language. I can relate to what Paula says there to a significant degree even though I am not culturally Deaf and I don't really live much in the D/deaf worlds except a bit online. That's my deafhood too and bollocks to anyone who doesn't like that or wants to diss BSL or my straddling worlds identities.

    The bit where Paula tells her mum how much she valued her mum's cultural heritage of Judaism and loved growing up with it, but it being something she can't pass to her children made me want to cry. I had to stop watching this in my lunch hour at work beacuuse "too much emotional blur for work error". I don't know why, but watching Paula say that to her mum and how she reached out to hold her mum and drew her Mum into a hug gets me every time I watch that scene. It's like they struggle to find a shared language, but a hug shows just how much Paula seems to love her mum even though they might not understand one another or one another's point of view all the time. That hug says to me "I love you, I can't be what you want me to be or how you want me to be, but it's not because I don't love you.". It makes me value the good relationship I have with my mum.

    That scene was also important cos I think many deaf people exist in a family of origin situation where they cannot be what their hearing parents want them to be, whether that's "able to hear like hearies" "make an effort" or because they have learned sign language which is not a language of the family or one they have bothered/managed to learn. The cultural identities where the children do not share the same expected cultural heritage of the parents, (many) D/deaf, disabled people and LGBTQ people and maybe to some degree religion. Where there isn't that continuity of family parent to child identity I see that strain and perhaps something about creating a family not of origin in a sense of strong communities. Maybe that is why I feel a kinship with the Deaf community even though I'm not that big a D deafie.

    Why is Grayson so obsessed with Tomato's hearing aid covers? OK they are badass and cool but they're like the least important bit of the programme. I didn't SEE Tomato wearing them, or any other hearing aids for that matter in the film... Maybe he did and those scenes were edited out, who knows.

    Ohno, the deaf people don't have proper access to music trope... Defining deaf by what (you perceive) they don't have there Grayson? *wince* this seems to be a hugely variable topic and probably not worth poking with any sticks here.

    In the final scene showing the groups the artwork Grayson goes back off on one saying the people in this programme all have "issues" and I feel it refers back to him admitting to disagreeing with those people on aspects of their identity like he did with the fat women implying a load of health propaganda from earlier in the programme to invalidate their proudness of identity. Grayson does then go on to talk about some of his perceptions of the deaf people and a politicised identity and a number of fairly nuanced points about Deaf identity but I can't help feeling he's not really grokked the Deaf group as much as he has some of his other subjects in this series.

    I wasn't sure what to make about the final artwork for the Deaf group. I have heard a few people saying they're unimpressed online from before I saw the programme. I now realise that Tomato has made it his twitter icon. I was prepared not to like it at all, but I think understanding more of Grayson's logic behind it and seeing the finished version makes me like it more. Grayson did make a nice comment to Tomato that he liked the hearing aid covers cos they were a bit angry which is true, deafies are a bit angry and rightfully so.

    I had never used a terp to communicate with a BSL user until I started my current job, I had always just blagged it in Deaf spaces or with signing people with what sign I have and had a lot of support and patience from better BSLers and it was social. Using a terp to communicate with BSL users at work because it's professional is SO much harder (for me) in many ways because it makes things much more stilted and does weird things to turn-taking and conversational flow. At least I can watch the BSL user signing for themselves and get tone which non signers don't get anything from. I wonder how much Grayson will have lost engaging with the Deaf people in this programme from not having any sign language himself as even a bit of sign goes SUCH a long way - I wonder how many BSL users would take a crappy signer vs terpped conversation.

    I'd say this episode of the series is the least-good of the three, with the least apt artworks for the subjects, only one group the fat women really loved theirs, the Northern Irish Loyalists clearly felt they were being mocked somehow and I think they were.

    I think the Deaf people were covered better than they would have been by most hearing presenters and I'd give it a solid 8/10 in that they did cover a number of complex issues and didn't get side tracked into OMG Deaf Eugenics or some of the other boring stereotypes.
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    Just catching up with the Internet this evening and I see this Limping Chicken article We were just looking at how to possibly catch you our, or restrict you. Access to Work Adviser talks to BBC News

    I see a number of deaf and disabled people saying "My advisor didn't know or understand very basic things about my disability or impairment needs". I've experienced that myself, with my one-time named adviser demonstrating that she didn't know the difference between a textphone/minicom and palantypy/STTR.

    What if this "ignorance" or lack of knowledge isn't actually genuine?

    If if this "ignorance" is a way of stonewalling applicants.

    It wouldn't be the first time I've seen claimed-ignorance used as a way of delaying or refusing to make adjustments for deaf and disabled people.

    Think about it. It's very clever for at least two reasons:
  • The wider non deaf and disabled world doesn't know much either, so they may be inclined to sympathise with the "lack of knowledge" and reinforce that paradigm of "It's unreasonable to expect an adviser to know everything about every disability".
  • It adds another hurdle or barrier to the process, every barrier reduces the number of people able to overcome it. That barrier puts the onus back on US as deaf and disabled people to educate, explain and justify ourselves and our unreasonable requests to them.

    Even when I have very carefully and politely educated and explained with all the power that my privilege of education, experience, nature of my job and sheer stubbornness give me; the access to work advisers have still stonewalled me in other ways.

    It's very similar to the "disablist hatecrime barge", a very specific *shove* with the shoulder which when the perpetrator is challenged is excused as "an accident". It's not accidental, it's very very obviously not accidental, it's very specific and very intentional and extremely insidious because the disabled person who has been assaulted will often not be believed "Oh, they said it was an accident" "they didn't mean it"...

    By FOIing the DWP asking for training materials, we allow them to distract us with the idea that more or better training might fix this problem. But if the issue is that they are directed to evade and stonewall us then no amount of 'training' and "consultation" will make any difference to a systematically and institutionally disablist system.
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    Context for this blogpost


    I've been hearing a lot about increased problems with Access to Work (AtW) over the past 12-18 months and thought I'd collate some information all in one post so I can point people at it - this post will be a work in progress.

    Access to Work is the government's system for providing assessment and funding for support for disabled and deaf employees in the UK. The government likes to talk about things in pure economic terms but will ignore their own figures which show in 2005 that for every £1 spent on AtW, the wider 'economy' benefitted by £1.48. The primary source for this is nearly impossible to find other than cited as DWP 2005 but it was cited by Liz Sayce in her widely cited Getting in, staying in, and getting on report colloquially known as "The Sayce Report".

    If you want to help


    If you want to do something to help, even if you are not an AtW user or your AtW is working well for you please consider joining Srtop Changes to Access to Work and watching the video of Jenny Sealey's rally speech in BSL with English subtitles.

    Access to Work has never embedded true accessibility by design


    Access to Work has never been the most accessible or user friendly system. Administered by the Jobcentre Plus (JCP) within the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) it feel oh so very much like the hassle of trying to claim social security benefits such as job seekers allowance (JSA). I should know, I've claimed both.

    Examples include
  • AtW not communicating accessibly,
  • Repeatably asking deaf people to telephone them even if AtW is needed to access deaf-suitable-telephony;
  • sending print letters to blind and partially sighted people even if they don't (yet) have technology to access them.

    These things matter because they expose the lack of inclusion and respect for deaf and disabled people at the heart of the organisation. Processes are more important than access!

    Recently the DWP has made large numbers of the AtW caseworkers redundant and closed down contact centres. This means that instead of a named advisor, we now have a nameless contact centre so can't even 'train someone up' to our communication/access needs, but have to start afresh every time which is time consuming and stressful.

    AtW users have not been officially informed of changes such as redundancy of case workers or changes in "the process", we only find things out when postal addresses fall out of use (or we check the gov.uk website and see things have changed), telephone numbers and email addresses don't work or our support workers are not paid. This is made harder by the fact that even advisers who are still in their jobs don't answer their phone, return calls or respond to emails.

    Collating experiences


    I'm going to collate people's personal experiences of Access to Work in this post and write a separate post of my own about my experiences of this potentially brilliant but institutionally disablist support system.

    I'll put things under categories of D/deaf and disabled separately as D/deaf people are being disproportionately affected as a single-impairment group due to the high cost of communication support workers.

    I am happy to receive links to sensible resources and people's experiences in English or BSL in comments, to @natalyadell or to natalyadell at gmail dot com and I'll upload them when I can.

    Deaf/deaf and HOH people's AtW experiences


  • Ian Noon - Parliamentary Campaigns Manager at National Deaf Children's Society (NDCS) -
    Access to Work difficulties via Limping Chicken - February 2014


  • William Mager - Series Producer, See Hear
    Will changes to disability work grants affect deaf people the most? article in BBC Ouch magazine - October 2014.


  • Jenny Sealey MBE - Artistic Director at Graeae a UK disability led theatre company and co-artistic director of London 2012's paralympic opening ceremony.
    Our mission could be in jeopardy.” Graeae’s Jenny Sealey on impact of Access to Work problems on theatre company. Limping Chicken article outlining the issues impacting deaf and disabled people in Graeae and potential impact on small disability-led organisations.


  • People with other impairments


  • Jess Thom - CoFounder of Touretteshero comedienne and children's worker.
    Access Impossible article about her recent difficulties with Access to Work - Oct 2014.


  • Howard Hardiman - Freelance artist, author, illustrator who has a progressive physical impairment.
    The trouble with not giving up blogpost about his recent experiences with AtW

  • Robin - Part-time self employed printmaker
    Access to Work - the government's in charge of another car crash blogpost about his experiences of AtW and discussion around rhetoric and structure of the system


  • Links, campaign groups and general information about AtW


    Gov UK Access to Work site

    Disability Rights UK factsheet F27 on Access to Work

    Action on Hearing Loss webpages about Access to Work for employees and employers

    Deaf ATW a site set up by an interpreter to support people in challenging (poor) AtW decisions. Contains BSL video information about some issues. Outlines a number of issues mostly affecting deaf people in AtW terms.

    See Hear Access to Work special episode available until ~20th November.

    National Deaf Children's Society (NDCS) submissions to the Department of Work and Pensions Select Committee inquiry [PDF].

    Stop Changes to Access to Work Campaign latest update and more information at Stop Changes to Access to Work main website.

    News articles about Access to Work



    OCT 2014
    Access to Work crisis: Minister apologises for bungled reforms Disability News Service.

    Access to Work crisis: Another Deaf leader speaks out Disabiity News Service.

    Access to Work crisis: Minister is ‘full of hot air’ Disability News Service.

    UK Council on Deafness welcomes Minister’s commitment to improve Access to Work

    Work and Pensions Committee Oral evidence from Select Committee on 29th Oct 2014
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    How to mug a deaf person. A video produced by someone I know, Caroline O'Neill and written by a Ben Green is up for the British Comedy Awards and seeking votes at http://www.comedy.co.uk/bca/video/163/. Another similar comedy sketch is Deaf Mugger by the same writer Ben and directed by William Mager at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7nAFSfo1U. I think Ben has a bit of a mugger thing going on. In both videos the sign and speech is subtitled beautifully!

    On one of the deaf places I sometimes hang out someone said she didn't like How to mug a deaf person because it made the interpreter the butt of the joke.

    I thought How to Mug a Deaf person was pretty funny, using the vehicle of interpreter having to relay what has been spoken to the deaf person (or around them) or signed by the deaf person faithfully because their professional code. In reality the code is at http://www.nrcpd.org.uk/page.php?content=30 and both interpreters would be able to refuse in these cases, but this is comedy, and in these sketches the interpreters are following a simplistic "must interpret all" even if it means they are aiding and abetting a crime or have to tell a mugger they're carrying lots of cash...

    It's a bit of a 'what if' and not entirely unrealistic. In the early naughties the American 711 relay services were being heavily used by overseas scammers using the relay operators to relay scams . Newspaper reporting including MSNBC had interviews with relay operators saying they felt like criminals being required to relay threats and obviously unlawful content.

    USA organisations are not permitted to refuse to take relay calls, but because of this high scam load many were doing so because more than 80% of calls were scams. This was causing harm to American deaf and deafblind people so eventually the telephony regulators instigated systems to make relay providers verify the identity of callers and ensure they are in the USA. UK law is similar, making it unlawful to hang up on TextRelay which I discuss in my blogpost about receiving relay calls

    As well as issues around legality, I think these comedy videos highlight humanity. The humanity of "support workers" "communication professionals" who are theoretically supposed to be invisible when acting for deaf and disabled people, but in reality cannot become unpersons, because they are human, they exist with characteristics such as age, race, gender.

    In the UK court system it is not currently legal to take a sign language interpreter or other support worker into the juror's deliberation room because legally the interpreter would count as a 13th person and breach the "sanctity" of the deliberation space. This is being challenged by UK deaf people and a mock trial is being carried out to see if having a deaf jurer and interpreter impacts deliberations.

    Research such as Women-only services: making the case by The Women's Resource Centre in the UK and the UK Women's National Commission's Findings from the WNC survey on women-only services consistently shows that the presence of men in some spaces can make them less safe for women. It is common practice in women's centres and organisations to have areas where men are not normally permitted during opening hours. It is easier to find research on women, so I am going to extrapolate the same principle for other X only spaces.

    Some time ago some friends and had an exploratory debate about the nature of a disabled or deaf person needing to take a support worker into what I call "X only spaces" so women only or Black, Minority Ethnic (BME) only people spaces where the support worker did not meet the required characteristic.

    I've seen various disability activists argue that the disabled person's access rights override the requirement of a support worker to have the appropriate X characteristic for X only spaces. I'm not sure I agree, cos intersectionality happens and sometimes needs clash.

    The argument that a support worker is like a wheelchair or even a guide dog doesn't work. A support worker IS a human being. It isn't about their professionalism, it's about the fact of their personhood that they could in themselves be a threat to other people in that X-only space - making it potentially unsafe or unwelcoming for many other people. So it pits a disabled person's right to support over other people's right to safety.

    This wasn't just a hypothetical exercise, I've organised events where a disabled person who had another X characteristic has attended with a support worker and would be absolutely welcome and entitled to go into the X only spaces. But their support worker might not be.

    Could we be honest about our policy, encourage people bringing a support worker to communicate with organisers in advance, so if their support worker wasn't appropriate for X-only spaces that we could look at alternative options? Some people don't need their support worker all the time, could the support worker help assist the disabled person as needed then wait nearby ready to be called if needed? Could we split a X-only session in half, one with non-X support worker and one without - giving other attenders honest information about what the space would be? Could we (with advance notice) as an organisation agree to pay for/towards hiring a support worker or person who could provide support for the duration of the X-only session? Much depends on what the nature of the support is, or how much notice we had.

    There isn't necessarily an answer which would keep everyone happy. But it was useful to think this stuff through, talking to women, trans people and people of colour about how they would honestly feel about sanctity of their X-only spaces.

    To me, beyond the comedy, the deaf mugger sketches really throw that personhood of a support worker in the viewer's face, making us uncomfortable, or laughing at the ludicrousness of it, but at the same time, maybe making us think and remember that while we can demand high standards, it's difficult and a bad path to go down trying to dehumanise anyone, even a professional "non person" in some situations.
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    You are a deaf or hard of hearing child in mainstream school sometime between 1985 and 2005.

    You wear hearing aids (or a cochlea implant and processor) which may or may not work to varying degrees to aid your hearing. You may also be relying on visual cues to know what is going on in the classroom. The classroom can be very noisy.

    One day your teacher of the deaf brings a radio aid into school. The receiver box connects to your hearing aids or CI processors with shoes, and wires, the box is clipped or botched onto your clothing somehow, probably in some way which is uncomfortable or annoying. If it’s nearer 2005 you have small connectors which clip into your hearing aids or CI processors which instead of being bulky are fiddly and annoying and you’re constantly terrified of losing them. Your teacher is given a transmitter unit which he or she wears around their neck, everyone tells you it is to make their voice louder so you can hear it better.

    When you are wearing the radio aid receiver plugged in and turned on and the teacher is using their transmitter in this scenario you are able to hear their voice - right inside your head. It might help you understand what the teacher is saying better, but it makes it harder to hear or focus on what the other children are saying. You don't get told there's a mode which allows you to hear the teacher and the classroom noise at the same time as the transmitter is probably set up for you and might be locked so you can't change it.

    The teacher instructs the class to get on with some work, which you do like almost everyone else. You write your name, the date and assuming you understood the instructions the required title at the top of your page and start working through the tasks. If you are lucky you get into the zone and are getting through the work.

    "JOHNNY, STOP THAT!!!"

    *You flinch!*

    Your hands fly to your hearing aids or the radio aid and the OFF switch.

    The teacher has just bellowed at 90 decibels, right into your head (via the radio aid).

    Your heart pounds, adrenaline floods through your body.

    Oh.... It’s not you in trouble.... It’s someone else....

    Breathe slowly, your heart still pounding. You look around the room, most people are just working away, they didn't even notice the shouting or your flinches.

    This kind of shouting interruption or other sudden noisy incident isn't uncommon. Loud noises can happen every few minutes if the usual suspects have a naughty day. Every time it happens though, you get startled and cannot concentrate on your work.

    You might decide to leave your hearing aids and or radio aid off or turned low so the shouting doesn't startle you. If you are lucky you might be able to re-focus on your work which you want to finish in time so the teacher is not actually cross with you.

    *Tap on the shoulder*

    The teacher is standing next to you looking cross. Their mouth is moving but you can’t hear much of or anything they are saying. You turn your hearing aids and or radio aid back on cautiously as you know there’s a high chance that the sound of the words coming out of the teacher’s mouth are too loud because they are cross, their face distorted with anger, and this time it is you who is in trouble.


    "Why have you turned your hearing aids/radio aid off?"

    "Mrs Teacher-Of-The-Deaf says you need to keep your hearing aids/radio aid on at all times."

    "HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU..."


    There is no way you can tell the teacher that you turned your hearing aids and or radio aid off because they kept yelling into the transmitter and scaring you. Or that your entire school life is a confusing mixture of loud and confusing noises or inaudible confusing speaking people.

    You hate the radio aid for other reasons too. The stupid wires which get tangled in everything, sometimes sending your hearing aids flying which makes other people laugh at you. The receiver box might be ugly; NHS beige or poo coloured; it might be too heavy for your clothes which can cause it to go kerplunking to the floor - and if it breaks that’s another thing you get into trouble for. Hearing aid harnesses are hideous, you don't want your parents to get that idea into their heads. Everyone else gets to rush out of the classroom at the end of the day, but you have to remember to turn off, unplug and charge the radio aid or return it to somewhere for safekeeping overnight, knowing you’ll get into trouble if you forget, or worse get constantly nagged by the teacher about it.

    And that’s before the ways using radio aids is stressful. Teachers who fiddle with the transmitter or have rustly clothes which make a horrible noise. Having to remember to collect the transmitter from the teacher at the end of every teaching session before they disappear off to wherever teachers go after classes, this is worse at secondary school with up to 6 or 7 classes a day. Desperately trying to shove the radio aid bits into your school bag quickly so you can keep up with everyone else - they are already half way to the next classroom. Supply teachers deciding that a ‘child like you’ can’t possibly be responsible for such an important and expensive piece of technology so refuse to return the transmitter to you; preferring to hide it somewhere in the terrifying staffroom. Meaning you will have to go and knock on the dreaded staffroom door during a break and hope it isn't someone scary who answers it. Then actually go into the staffroom while it’s full of teachers as only you know what the stupid radio aid looks like.

    There are some entertaining moments, the time the teacher forgets to turn the transmitter off and goes to gossip in the staffroom; so you and any friends can try to listen in. The teacher will try to blame you for their forgetfulness though, and try to get your parents on their side. It's funny the first time the teacher goes to the toilet with the transmitter turned on, but gets pretty boring when repeated.

    All of this hassle for noise that is IN YOUR HEAD. Often doesn't feel worth the hassle. You might stop using it in secondary school, stop caring what the SENCO or the Teachers of The Deaf say; they can’t make you, they’ll just nag and mither you about it. If you stop using it for long enough maybe they'll forget you ever had it.

    ...

    Some years later you’re thinking about university and suddenly the spectre of radio aids appears again...

    The university disability adviser talks enthusiastically about how helpful radio aids might be for you in lecture theatres where there’s up to 300 students, not the 30 max you are used to at school or college. The DSA Needs Assessor also goes on about radio aids, swears they’re much better now than they used to be and might even have some they want you to try.

    You can’t think of anything worse. Bad memories. Hassle.

    Giving control of your hearing whatever hearing you have to someone else? Not a chance! No thanks!



    Disclaimer, commentary and my personal experience
    To use or not use radio aids as an adult should be a deaf person's choice.

    As a deaf adult I have returned to using radio aids, several years after the BAHA got appropriate connectors. Access to Work provided me with a Connevans fmGenie in 2007 and allowed an upgrade to a Comfort Digisystem in 2013.

    Radio aids don't amplify sound "make it louder" no matter what anyone tells you. They eliminate the distance between the speaker's voice or desired sound and the listener, and in doing so increase the signal compared to the (background or unwanted) noise. Having a microphone a few centimetres away from a speaker's mouth vs being two or more metres away makes a huge difference because physics happens in the form of the "inverse squared law. Radio aids can help in large rooms with lots of people shuffling around in them, or reduce the unwanted noise of the increasingly ubiquitous noisy digital projector and air conditioning systems.

    Visible radio aid systems and symbols of deafness also make people do better deaf awareness, as they have a constant visual reminder. I love it when I can find another deaf or hard of hearing person to wire up to one of my spare radio aids as "visible reminder" so I don't have to necessarily have to use mine myself! I may write about the complexities of visible vs invisible impairments and and and some other time...

    Radio aids are still annoying:
    Many of the issues in the article above haven't changed since 1986 when I got my first poo coloured Phonak radio aid. I still remember its white 9 volt Nickel-Cadmium rechargeable batteries which needed charging every 6 hours, fortunately in the classroom at primary school. Secondary school's "charging place" was up 4 flights of stairs at the furthest part of the school from the school bus stops. I could charge the radio aid, or miss all the buses home and we weren't supposed to use the public buses. The units were heavy so carrying them to and from school (on top of all my other "assistive tech" wasn't an option. Learning to manage the listening requirements of so many subjects and teachers in so many different classrooms was hard enough without having to give and collect the transmitter unit from teachers every lesson. I got my first Bone Anchored Hearing Aid (BAHA) in early 1992 aged 12 and they didn't have radio aids which connected to them, so I was able to stop using it.

    Not everyone can use the micro receiver units, I'm one of them as I choose to use a weird BAHA which doesn't use the modern connectors. I still have wires and receiver boxes and I ping hearing aids and glasses everywhere quite often - it's less bad as an adult as I can crack a joke before anyone else can - all I need is false teeth to finish the set etc. Speakers are still notorious for fiddling with the transmitters - one radio aid I tried sounded appalling if the transmitter casing rubbed against anything! I'm still responsible for making sure I have the right wires, working hearing aid batteries + spares, charged radio aid batteries, and enough brain to remember how to make it work. I manage by having a set of everything in one bag for that purpose only.

    As an adult, I have more choices. I can download the radio aid manuals and set the system up the way I want to, or twiddle with the setting whenever I like. I very rarely give a radio aid transmitter unit to a speaker because I still hate having to ask for the transmitter back cringing inside every time I have to. I usually use a conference microphone which I put somewhere convenient for me and away from people's poky hands. I can and do control the volumes of different systems. Adults speaking in adult situations tend not to shout suddenly. I can request some deaf awareness a lot of the time.

    With everything written above in mind: Sometimes I am that disability advisor being enthusiastic to a prospective or current deaf or hard of hearing student about radio aids. Sometimes I see my students cringe and I wonder if they have bad memories of radio aids too - and will ask them. I try to make suggestions about ways a radio aid can be used in a way which is useful while not giving other people control over the deaf/HOH student's hearing.

    I am also aware that some people just don't get any or enough gain or assistance from radio aids to overcome the intrinsic annoyingness of using them. That is OK too.

    Whatever my students choose, they are adults who have the right to make and live with the consequences of their choices. What I can do, is give them the opportunity to make an informed choice and know that they can change their mind or talk to me about deafness and study stuff as I might have ideas and I will try hard not to be judgemental even if I think they're making a mistake - which are their mistakes to make.

    I wish every teacher of the deaf, SENCO and parent of a deaf child knew what wearing a radio aid was like. Even if it isn't possible to allow a deaf child in education to "opt out" of using one. Our experiences as children and teenagers often inform our feelings and choices as adults.
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    Deaf, deaf, Hard of Hearing (HOH), even the dreaded Hearing Impaired..... There's a lot of divisions in 'deaf communities' and a fair bit of fighting. I don't join 'deaf' spaces without expecting to need a fairly thick skin.

    Yet every individual I speak to Deaf, deaf, HOH, deafened, deaf-blind says they don't like the division and fighting either. In fact I'd go so far as to say people HATE it. I know I do.

    Just hurling this blogpost out now in reply to a tweet really, cos 140chars isn't enough. Someone suggested we had too much uncommon ground to do deaf unity...

    That's almost the opposite conclusion to what I was noodling with the other day.

    The entire deaf world seems to be split into BSL signing culturally big D deaf and oral/aural non-signing small d deaf (hard of hearing, hearing impaired etc)...

    You're either or.... Apparently.

    And even if you do accept a D/d deaf divide we seem not to be able to work together on anything and there's epic amounts of grudge bringing up, "you were mean to me about X, so I'm not being nice to you about Y"...

    And I can understand that. Cos what it says to me is we're all hurting. Paddy Ladd on See Hear talking about CIs discussed bullying amongst "deaf" people of all deafnesses and talked about how it was caused by structural audism...

    So assuming there's 3 loose groups of deaf-signing, deaf-oral and then the inbetweeny group of deaf signing & oral cos an astonishing number of people seem to have some level of sign language skills...

    I tried to work out some basic choices and which groups would choose what. And actually very few fell into either the deaf-signing or deaf-oral only camps. Most fell somewhere in between.

    I also tried to add deaf-blind and deaf+other-impairment to that cos many of us do have sight impairments and I hear deaf-blind people talking about inclusion or exclusion within the deaf community. My own "additional impairments" affect how much I physically CAN sign...

    So here's my startng venn diagram.
    venn diagram image of signing deaf, oral deaf, deafblind etc, with communication choice type things

    What have I missed? I'm sure I have missed stuff, will modify this as needed.

    But I think we can all agree that we support access to
    * Appropriate and full access to language during the critical early-years window
    * Healthcare via deaf awareness and communication support
    * Education, cos right now for deaf children it's not good
    * Employment support in the workplace with deaf awareness, less structural prejudice,
    * Access to Work support whether it be for BSL terps, lipspeakers or radio aids
    * Entertainment with subtitles for cinema and DVDs and videos on websites etc
    * Funding for access to support for every day life like Finland has for deaf people
    * Some stuff under legal, social, moral, medical models of disability.
    * Assistance animals like hearing dogs or guide dogs

    The only thing I could find which I think some people want and others don't is culturo-linguistic recognition of British Sign Language. Which arguably even those who don't sign don't lose out from, and could benefit from if we wanted to learn/improve our sign language and could apply to other things...

    What are the other differences we have amongst ourselves?

    Clarifications and possible modifications
    Firstly in the Venn Diagram I have simplified all "deaf" identities into 'deaf' for reasons of space and simplicity. If I filled the Venn diagram with deafened/HOH/Deaf/sign language user etc it wouldn't be as easy to read. What I might do in a better draft of this entry is specify I am going to do that alongside a description of the image for people who can't see it.

    I also haven't talked about deafness levels in any way. Nor have I attempted to define the sign language group as profoundly or severely deaf and the oral group as anything else cos level of deafness in my experience is less relevant than upbringing, culture, personal choice etc. I know of "profoundly deaf" people who are only oral and do not sign. I know "moderately deaf" people who are culturally Deaf and who do sign. I know "slightly hard of hearing" people who have chosen to learn sign language etc etc.

    I haven't talked about CODA/KODAs. We hear a lot about signing CODAs, but not a lot about oral CODAs yet many of us non signing people will have children who are "children of deaf adult(s)". I am too ignorant on this to say if there is info out there but it's on my think and read a bit more about list.
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    Why am I writing a post about lipspeaking
    I asked various real life and Internet friends if they knew what lipspeaking was and how it worked and more than 75% had no idea or were guessing. People said they would like a blogpost.

    I have to start out by saying I am not an expert on lipspeaking. I have known what lipspeakers are since 1995 but never used one myself or been around anyone using one. I am sharing information and knowledge that I have acquired from being on various online deaf communities. This post contains some of my contextualised opinions as well as information.

    I am using the word deaf to mean anyone with a hearing impairment and or has any kind of difficulty accessing spoken speech sounds e.g auditory processing disorder etc.

    What is a lipspeaker
    A lipspeaker is a person who has been specially trained to repeat a speaker's speech in a more easy to lipread way. Usually silently but they can use their voice on request.

    Lipspeakers may add fingerspelling, sign language, body language and other cues to their communication and will adapt their communication according to what the deaf client requests and needs.

    Where the original speaker is speaking very fast a lipspeaker may have to rephrase what is said and only repeat the more essential and salient points. A lipspeaker is supposed to be less than a sentence behind the original speaker.

    There are different levels of lipspeaking qualification. Level 3 seems to be the level required for professional lipspeaking.

    North American terms
    North Americans often use the term "speech reading" for what we UKers call lipreading.

    I now wonder what lipspeakers are called in America...? Googling didn't initially help so I asked humans on the Internet and got an answer in under 5 minutes. Lipspeakers in America are called "oral transliterators".


    What does lipspeaking look like
    As of April 2013 there is only one 2min35s subtitled video on the brand new ALS website. The video is of a spoken voice which the filmed lipspeaker is lipspeaking for. This video is a deliberately staged and slightly exaggerated example of lipspeaking which is well designed to demonstrate the principles and concepts of lipspeaking.

    http://lipspeaking.co.uk/videos/

    I am hoping (and have asked) if the ALS can upload some different short clip examples of lipspeaking in the wild and using different modifications like sign language and language modification.


    Lipspeaking in situational contexts
    Mileage is going vary hugely for how useful people find lipspeaking dependent on many factors such as:
  • When they became deaf e.g at birth or before they developed language, early childhood, adulthood or in old age.
  • Rapidity of deafness whether sudden or gradual.
  • Level of deafness.
  • Type of deafness.
  • Amplification choices - none, hearing aids, CIs, others.
  • Communication choices - speech, residual hearing, sign (BSL/SSE/SEE), cueing and more.
  • Education - level, quality, type, awareness.
  • Individual personality and preference and situation.

    For oral deaf (people who communicate primarily with speech and use residual hearing possibly with hearing aids and cochlea implants) and deafened (those who have been hearing and become deaf) people lipspeaking enables them to access the tone, cadence, meaning and body language of the original speaker while accessing the clarity provided by the lipspeaker. Many people could not access this with text based communication options.

    A lipspeaker (like a sign language interpreter) can move around with a deaf person in situations like conferences and places where small groups of people are clustered around talking.

    A lipspeaker terping for a group may well be much much easier to follow as it's a single person rather than having to look around to find the new speaker and switch focus to them and their new lipspeaking patterns. It takes deaf people longer to realise a new speaker has started talking and "lock in" to the new speaker's speech patterns.

    To lipread English (or an other spoken language) effectively requires the deaf person to have a suitable vocabulary for understanding what has been said. Basically someone has to have the language and vocabulary in the first place to make use of this so it may not be suitable for a BSL user who does not have good English.


    Lipreading classes
    I am a huge fan of lipreading classes for people who are deaf, especially those who become deafened as I believe they teach a lot of very useful skills for coping with being deaf in the real world.

    Action on Hearing Loss's Lipreading page: http://www.actiononhearingloss.org.uk/get-involved/campaign/read-my-lips/lipreading-for-people-with-hearing-loss.aspx

    I must sign up for some of those classes myself at some point.


    Association of Lipspeakers
    The professional body which represents lipspeakers is the Association of Lipspeakers (ALS) and their newly designed website is at http://www.lipspeaking.co.uk/. This website is pretty comprehensive and worth a read in their own words.

    You can also search for lipspeakers on the National Registers of Communication Professionals (NRCPD) website at http://www.nrcpd.org.uk/ Tip, you have to provide a location before it'll let you select professional type in the next field.

    Many lipspeakers also have their own websites.

    Lipspeaking seems to cost approx £30-£40 an hour and may be charged in minimum increments of 2 hours, or by the half/whole day. Two lipspeakers may be required for long or complex assignments.


    My thoughts on lipspeaking for me
    I think lipspeaking still requires the deaf person to concentrate a lot.

    Lipreading and using residual hearing is tiring and only about 35% of the English language is even possible to lipread from normal lip patterns alone. I do not yet know if this is higher for lipspeakers (using modifications and otherwise).

    Last time I was tested (artificial conditions, previous hearing aids) using single words and careful male audiologist spoken sentences:
  • Without lipreading my comprehension was ~60%
  • With lipreading my comprehension was 90%

    I found the lag on the ALS video somewhat disconcerting and am not sure that I would gain much from a lipspeaker that I don't get from lipreading most speakers for myself. In fact watching the video felt much like my few experiences of sharing someone's BSL terp where it was useful and gave me some extra info but extremely tiring to take advantage of as my BSL is fairly poor level 2 standard.

    I think I use a lot of my energy processing audio, even with lipreading or sign language supplementation. This means my memory for audio information is poor. At work I have to make notes or I'll not remember what my students have said properly. I have an excellent (as in frightening people by what details I recall) memory for information I have seen presented in text.

    While I haven't experienced a true test of lipspeaking I don't think it is for me. However I think more people should know about it and evaluate whether it's something they would find useful and share this information with deaf and hearing people.


    Questions? and comments are welcomed
    If you have any questions, chuck em in the comments. Please tell me if I use words which you don't know, so I can go back and expand/define them if needed.

    I'll probably edit this post as I go along.
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    Why do I know anything about these DSA changes?
    I am a disabled students' adviser in my day job. I am one of the DSA nerds on my team.

    I researched DSA vs university funding provision systems for one of the four assignments 6 months ago for my National Association of Disability Practitioners (NADP) accreditation which I passed. See resources at the end for more info.

    I am also a deaf and disabled person. I received DSA between 1996 and 1998 then again between 1999 and 2004 and I've used AtW the employment 'equivalent' on and off since 2007 for my sins.

    Update: I should make it clearer here that the views I express on this blog are mine alone and do not represent either my employer or any professional organisations like the NADP that I am part of. Any mistakes are also mine and mine alone

    What's happened to DSA today?
    David Willets made a Press Release on behalf of Business Innovation and Skills (BIS) dept announcing some fairly severe and unexpected changes to Disabled Students' Allowances (DSA) funding. While not unexpected in principle, it is a sudden surprise landed on us today.

    David Willets's Press Release: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/higher-education-student-support-changes-to-disabled-students-allowances-dsa

    There is also a lesser propagated useful details PDF giving more detail of DSA changes at http://www.practitioners.slc.co.uk/media/744663/ssin_01-15_apr2014.pdf

    It is useful to know about the new SFE Non-Medical Help Services Reference Manual for some context later at http://www.practitioners.slc.co.uk/media/705785/non_medical_help_manual_v6.pdf

    The press release alone is vague as all heck. The details document + NMH reference manual clarifies some things and leaves some stuff vague. There is also the issue of how HEIs interpret this, how HEIs feedback on this and how disabled students/people and Disability Advisers, needs assessors, support workers etc also feed back and interpret this.

    There is some discussion on #DSA on twitter that I know about.

    What HAS been cut from DSA funding
    While the cuts are sudden and are genuinely worrying, there is already misinformation out there which I feel should be avoided where possible as it won't help any one and will panic people.

    Main things which have been cut from DSA funding:

    • Computers and standard software e.g. office for students who don't have a direct disability reason for needing them. Plus some stuff about no longer DSA funding specialist computers for academic reasons e.g. macs cos course is delivered on macs and warranties.

    • Some level of cuts to DSA provision for students with a specific learning difficulty e.g. Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. Only provision for those whose needs are complex whatever complex means - that hasn't been defined.

    • Accommodation costs e.g. difference between non-ensuite and ensuite for say a wheelchair user or someone needing other adaptations where the only rooms possible are more expensive. This probably means universities can't charge more in their accommodation.

    • Most of the general allowance reclaimables: Internet, photocopying, printing printer cartridges, batteries etc. This will probably exist for specialist stuff like Braille paper but details are not yet available.

    • Non specialist non medical helper costs. Specifically bands 1 and 2 in the Non Medical Help Services Reference Manual. This includes practical/library/lab assistants, scribes, readers, sighted guides, proofreaders at band 1. "Study assistant", Exam support worker, and manual notetaker at band 2. This probably means that HEIs will have to fund these for a disabled/DSA student where there is disability-related need and/or do more to reduce the need for these by most students (anticipatory reasonable adjustments)


    What has *NOT* been cut from DSA funding

    • Band 3 NMH support such as Communication Support Worker (CSW), Electronic Notetaker, Specialist transcription services (handwriting or audio to typed text), mobility trainer for partially-sighted and blind people.

    • Band 4 NMH support such as specialist 1:1 mentor and study skills/coaching support, BSL interpreters, Language support for deaf students, assistive technology training

    • Non banded NMH support such as Speech to Text Reporters, lipspeakers etc who don't fit into bandings at this time.

    • All DSA support for students with SpLDs. We don't know details yet, but complex is not defined and 1:1 study support probably counts as complex.
    • All computers on DSA. I suspect a lot will go, but students who are blind or partially sighted and need JAWS, Zoomtext or similar will probably be OK. As will students who may need a light weight machine or ergonomic equipment. I can't be 100% sure, as no one knows much yet, but these are likely...

    What else should people note
    BIS are cutting DSA funding for Stuff.

    Note "DSA Funding". Not the reductions of obligation for Stuff to be funded. That is an important distinction.

    It is apparent BIS want Higher Education Institutions (HEIs) to fund some of this stuff that has been cut as part of their duties under both anticipatory reasonable adjustments and 'reactive' reasonable adjustments under the Equality Act 2010.

    I know universities don't always fund or stuff disability access stuff that they ought to and anticipatory adjustments are patchy. I know this is worrying for people starting courses from 2015. I think this is justified concern - we just don't know the details yet as HEIs haven't had a chance to consider this change and the implications.

    Current students and those starting in 2014-15 will retain currentish levels of DSA support.

    Questions? I'll update these as I get them round the web
    If you want to ask me questions email me on natalya dot dell @ gmail dot com, tweet @natalyadell or post a comment in here. I will be working all day tomorrow but will try and answer questions when I can.

    Received so far:
    Question 1.
    Does double-funding as described "We no longer expect assistive technology and non-medical helper support to be provided for the same purpose. This is regarded as double-funding." mean that there are implications for notetaking alongside BSL interpreting or lipspeaking?

    I don't think so but I can flag this up with people giving feedback (one of whom is an ex BSL interpreter who "gets" deaf stuff).

    Communication support provides 'realtime' access in appropriate modality of say BSL interpretation or lipspeaking (rare in DSA). Notetakers manual and electronic provide post-session details to work on for revision or following up. It is possible for a student to be recommended BSL terp + electronic notetaking cos of the quality of electronic notes at 120wpm and already in text.

    Question 2.
    Will the increase in focus on 'anticipatory adjustments' such as providing notes, allowing or making recordings mean notetaking is not approved.

    I don't know to be sure. It may be that an HEI has to fund manual notetaking for some students. It might be that deaf students get electronic notetaking which is a band 3 provision which is increasingly common alongside STTR cos manual notetaking isn't deemed to be comprehensive enough for more severely/profoundly deaf students.

    I have seen university departments fund a student to take "good notes" and be paid to have their notes copied at the end of each session and made available to anyone on that course. Not only works for many disabled students, but those who break arms or can't get into university cos of illness etc. This might suddenly become a popular solution. Australia often caption whole lectures and upload transcript + realtime captions to recordings of lectures as an anticipatory measure.

    Question 3.
    My child is starting university in September will these changes affect them.

    No, only students from 2015 entry onwards.

    I also can't say exactly HOW these changes from 2015 will be interpreted until we see the DSA Regulations (2014's regulations are at http://www.practitioners.slc.co.uk/media/708804/disabled_students__allowances_14-_15.pdf ) are published and then how DSA Needs Assessors, the funding bodies and BIS interpret them and how disability advisers learn to work with them.


    Question 4.
    Does this mean a deaf student who needs manual notetaking won't get it any more?

    My interpretation is no. I think a DSA needs assessment will make the recommendation and it will be the Higher Education Institution (HEI) responsibility to fund it or an alternative that meets the student's needs. For some students who get notetakers an alternative might be fine, for others e.g. deaf students it will probably need to be notes but I don't know what creative ideas people will come up with.

    This does put the onus onto the student to enforce this, but that is somewhat like now anyway and like Access to Work is. Disabled students' advisers should be able to help to some degree. I hope HEIs won't need complaints to put support in place. There are other agencies like the Office of the Independent Adjudicator (OIA) who do have teeth and will use them against any HEI deemed not to have met their duties under the Equality Act. Students can also get advice from law firms like Unity Law who I used to sue HMRC last year.

    Question 5.
    Will these changes result in HEIs refusing places to some disabled students because of the potential costs involved?

    I don't think so, by and large anyway. Some students go over DSA funding already and HEIs have to look for additional or alternative funding and can't refuse a student their place. I won't say this has never and does never happen not least cos I'm seeing reports on twitter from those it has happened to, but it shouldn't be happening now and it shouldn't happen from 2015 onwards either.

    If you believe you have been denied a place then a written complaint to the head of department you applied to and someone in registry or admissions is probably the way to go. Student advice services may be able to help you.

    Question 6.
    What happens if I am offered a place but no one will fund the disability support I need?

    Universities and DSA will only fund academic disability-related support costs which enable you to access any part of academic life like teaching, online environment, advice services, graduation, exams etc. Sometimes universities don't fund stuff that probably could be deemed reasonable adjustments. Sometimes students get caught in a "we don't fund this" gap between employers and HEIs which is also rubbish.

    If you feel you need support that is not being provided or funded, the disability advice service is the first port of call. If we don't know your notetakers notes are rubbish, or your academic department aren't providing what is required we can't help. Communicate with us and let us know what you want (politely please, we're only human!) and we will do our best. If you feel you can't get a prompt (within a few days) response from your adviser due to limited staffing, then that is worth making a complaint about as it won't be frontline people's fault and they may need to consider improving provision.

    If you are unhappy with your disability adviser or feel he/she doesn't know enough, you can politely ask to be transferred to an alternative who knows more about your impairment needs and funding. If you are still unhappy making a complaint in writing is probably the best option, ensure the head of your potential or existing academic department is copied in.

    If you feel people have tried their best but your support is still poor, it is worth thanking the people who have tried in your complaint so that the focus is made on the poor provision and not staff who are only doing their best.

    Most universities or their unions have a student advice service, they may be worth contacting for advice about any issue you are unhappy with.

    Disability Rights UK has a student telephone and email helpline which I would contact in any instance http://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/how-we-can-help/helplines/disabled-students-helpline

    Unity Law has some template letters you can sign up to their website to access at http://www.unity-law.co.uk/media_area/documents.htm these are a good first step and you can ask their advice as well.

    Question 7.
    What advice would you give to 2015 entry students about this?

    Don't panic. It is too soon to panic. Continue as you were, focus on your studies and choosing the right course for you when the time comes.

    The announcement and changes to DSA as they stand now are almost certainly not going to be what's in place in 2015. This is a certain amount of political posturing between BIS and Universities in the UK and we don't know how it'll settle out in the short and longer term.

    Your best bet is to apply to institutions as usual and if you're worried contact disability services at that time with specific info about yourself and your disability needs to ask how non-DSA funded support is provided.

    Disability support may not have the answers early on in your application but how you are responded to will give you an idea how how likely they are to be helpful.

    Again I think the disability rights helpline may be invaluable as an independent source of advice.


    Useful resources
    Hyde, M. et al (2009) The experiences of deaf and hard of hearing students at a
    Queensland university 1985-2005. Higher Education Research & Development (28), 1.
    [Online] Available at:<http://www.researchgate.net/publication/41092018_the_experiences_of_deaf_and_h>
    [Accessed 08-JUL-2013]

    Wright, B. (2005) Accommodating Disability in Higher Education: a closer look at the
    evidence for a mainstream framework of learning support. Research in Post-
    Compulsory Education, (10):1.

    The Snowdon Trust (2013) The Snowdon 2013 Survey Report [Online] Available at:
    <http://www.snowdontrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/snowdon-survey-2013-> [Accessed 11-JUL-2013]
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    I've seen a lot of people confused by Next Generation Text Relay (referred to as NGTR from now on) so I will try and simplfy info and cite my sources at the end.

    I will assume deaf and hearing users for simplicity and likely common users. I am aware this will affect users with speech impairments and deafblind users.

    OfCom's BSL translation of the NGTR approval.

    If you don't know about existing TextRelay phone services for deaf and speech impaired people


    I recommend you read my other blogposts on TextRelay (formerly TypeTalk).
  • Deaf and speech impaired people's access to telephones which outlines what a textphone is and UK's TextRelay.
  • Receiving an incoming call from a textphone user via TextRelay explaining incoming TextRelay calls.
  • Four main modes for using a relay service covering a lot more detail about the variety of options.

  • Next Generation Text Relay - NGTR will provide the following improvements to pre 2014 TextRelay services:


    1) Allows the deaf person to use their regular PC (windows, mac, linux), tablet or smartphone device (Android, Apple's iOS) or Braille equipment to to connect to NGTR. This means no more expensive custom textphone/minicom hardware and no more needing an analogue telephone line.

    [edit: Someone has pointed out to me that there doesn't seem to be info on how to be billed if you don't use a telecoms provider. I am looking into this as I couldn't see the answer in the OfCom documents. I am worried this might mean we need 'a phoneline' either mobile or landline or link in with a VOIP provider which is hassle and unfuture proof.]

    2) Allows us to drop the 18002 dialing prefix that had to be dialled before the deaf person's usual telephone number. This can now be handled via a "TextNumber" which is basically a fake telephone number which automatically routes incoming calls via NGTR before connecting the call to the deaf user. The deaf user will need to register a TextNumber and give it out to people. No more organisations claiming they can't dial or store 18002. Users can still use and dial via 18002 if they wish to.

    3) Allows both users to be able to speak and hear one another as well as having relaying of various parts of the call. This means deaf users with residual hearing can hear what is spoken as well as having relaying, or speak for themselves VCO style more naturally while having an op to help relay if there are some words which aren't easy to understand. I am not sure how this will work at implementation, if we'll need a modem/landline or if we can connect via VOIP, suspect it's one of those things we won't know till NGTR launches.


    Official (initial) launch date for NGTR is 18th April 2014, but it's all gone a bit quiet, so we don't know if this means there will be a slight delay or not.


    Questions deaf and hearing people have asked me


    How will deaf and hearing NGTR users get the NGTR apps?
    The windows/mac/linux apps will be downloadable from the NGTS website. The Android Apps will be in the app store and the iOS (Apple) apps will be from the Apple app store. The Apple apps may be slightly delayed due to Apple's rigorous approval systems.

    The apps should all be free. It is also possible that once the NGTR goes live that other organisations may write apps or integrate NGTR functionality into their own apps as the standards should all be open and coherent to telecoms-techies.


    How will a deaf person make a call with NGTR
    The 18001 prefix will remain for deaf people. Deaf people dial 18001 plus the person's usual number on our smartphones, the 18001 should trigger the app on a smartphone and it will connect to relay and we should be able to handle calls much like we do at present, just on a wider range of devices. I presume the same from the desktop apps but don't know how the phone connection works just yet.

    We will be able to dial any number we want after the 18001 just like we have always done, we don't need any pre-registration once we have the apps.


    How will a hearing person make a call to a deaf person with NGTR?
    They can use the 18002 system that exists at present, OR they can use our new TextNumber which will start with 03 for landlines and 07 for mobiles. This will connect them via the relay service.

    I believe using the TextNumber will automatically trigger the app on our PC/smartphone etc and it will flash/ring/pop up and we can answer it in software.


    How to register for a TextNumber (fake relay phone number)
    Register with Next Generation Text Service (NGTS) via an automated process using the device and number you wish to use. This will generate an automated TextNumber for that device's number. I assume this will be possible entirely in text as needed.

    TextNumbers should be free to us, one TextNumber per number. If we change mobile/landline numbers we can just move our existing text number to cover it.

    We will have to use our TextNumber once a year to keep it from being de-activated.

    Our TextNumber will show up on callerIDs and can be withheld as usual. When calling emergency services 18000 our original number will show for localising us purposes but the services will be told the TextNumber by the relay op.


    Can deaf and hearing people in the same household share a phoneline.
    Yes! For calls to come through to the house or even mobile just give out the usual number. For calls to come via relay give out the relevant TextNumber.

    I am not sure if the mobile TextNumber will handle SMS smoothly or if we'll end up with one mobile number for SMS and another for incoming calls via relay. I hope it won't be two numbers, if it is, and it's annoying we can complain and insist OfCom get that changed.


    Will the relaying in NGTR be speech recognition or a human operator?
    It will be a human operator required to type at least 40wpm (unless recipient needs it slower e.g. is using Braille) and on average 60wpm. This is a bit slow and NADP and SENSE have raised concerns with OfCom who may revise the standard upwards. Early indications from people online are even pre-release of NGTR relay ops are faster and smoother than usual...

    There doesn't seem to be a plan to use computerised speech recognition as the technology is simply no where near suitable yet.


    Can businesses download the app and have deaf people contact them directly through NGTR?
    Yes, Text-to-Text calls will still be possible via the app or current textphone devices without the relay assistant. Businesses can download the app on their own systems.

    Not sure why anyone would want to do the above give many deaf people would prefer online chat systems either via a website or Skype. Also thought needs to be put into how businesses will detect and answer incoming calls swiftly.


    How will calls be paid for?
    For the hearing person calling a deaf person using TextNumbers they will be billed at the usual minutely rate with no automatic rebate as the main purpose of TextNumbers is for businesses who won't care. An automatic rebate was deemed unlikely to be routinely necessary due to the prevalence of 'inclusive minutes' and 'minute bundles' which NGTR calls must be able to come out of via landline and mobile service providers.

    A hearing caller using 18002 prefix instead of the TextNumber will still get the usual rebate (if their telecoms provider handles it right) which would work for someone who called a deaf person regularly. Although I'd expect a regular caller of a deaf person for long calls to be using something civilised like instant messaging e.g Skype etc or SMS or video calls :).

    For the deaf person we will still be using a prefix 18001 so will automatically get our rebate and our telecoms company MUST provide that. I think this means that we will have NGTR items on our usual phone bills and landline and mobile phone companies have to handle this by 18th April even though they have not had enough time to test it. My understanding is Telecoms companies have to give us rebate, so might have to give us free calls via relay till they sort it out. :)

    Sources and links


    Next Generation Text Service Website very sparse at present, I hope it'll improve ASAP.

    OfCom's NGTR documents page which is a bit confusing.

    Annex 6 is worth reading for a simple breakdown of stuff.

    OfCom Review of Relay Services Oct 2012 contains useful stuff in detail.

    BSL explanation of NGTR from OfCom from 3rd March .

    NGTR explained by Limping Chicken.

    Sense deaf-blindness charity response to NGTR.
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    This evening the House of Lords have had a debate about SignHealth's Sick of It report which is specifically about British Sign Language (BSL) using deaf people's lack of access to appropriate healthcare and healthcare information. This report specifically talks about the need for BSL information.

    Several deaf people emailed about this and got a stock reply saying there would be no verbatim subtitling - they didn't respond about real-time BSL interpretation or access to BSL interpretation of the post-debate transcript.

    The hearing ally called the House of Lords phoneline and escalated this issue to a named manager who agreed it was ironic, inaccessible, insulting etc and recommended complaints were made.

    So lets do that then. Complaints ahoy! Make our voices and signs heard and seen!

    The content of your complaint will differ depending on your circumstances so jump to the appropriate complaint wording with the links below.

    1) You are deaf and use sign language so rely on or prefer BSL interpretation.
    2) You are deaf or hard of hearing and don't sign so rely on subtitling.
    3) You are a hearing ally who wishes to support your D/deaf/HOH friends.

    cut for different complaint templates and original stock HoL reply )
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    I've just finished watching the See Hear episode (Series 33, Episode 30 with Clive interviewing Paddy Ladd about cochlea implants.

    Wow! That is completely not what I'd been told it was. It took me a while to click into Paddy's signing but I think I was following more of his tone (and cheating with subtitles) by the end!

    Paddy was not the hardcore anti-hearing anti-oral-communication radical I had heard him described as recently. He was a calm, reasonable, rational and logical interviewee who's reasons for concern are entirely reasonable...

    For example he outlined many of the reasons that the Deaf BSL using community had been concerned about cochlea implants in the 1980s. This was a time sign language using deaf people were growing as a community and fighting against the language, culture and education deprivation imposed on them by the hearing world. Cochlea implants threatened their community and culture as well as being promoted by entities which had historically not always been as ethical as they should have been.

    Paddy talked about why he wrote the article "Oralism's Final Solution" in 1985 where he likened cochlea implants to wiping out of deaf people (I must try and get a full-text copy). It was clear to me this was a 2014 Paddy looking back at his 1985 article and putting it in context of the politics and the time. I can't tell if his views are different or if he can separate a personal distaste from a reality which isn't as scary as expected...

    Paddy says he was always advocated for bilingualism as hearing aids have been around in various forms for nearly 100 years and he was never against that but felt cochlea implants are marketed as a way of making deaf people not deaf any more whereas his belief is a lot like mine which is we remain deaf regardless of our aided-hearing options/access etc.

    Paddy talked of his early work as a deaf social worker and working with the often hearing families devastated by the news of their child's deafness. He was very very specific and seemed to understand just how devastating have a child diagnosed as deaf could be to families and the very scary and real challenges learning sign language is.

    Paddy outlined very succinctly the reasons he felt the Politically Oralist agenda (my terms, nowt official) was harmful to everyone in the D/deaf communities. This focus on hearing and speech and absolute banning of sign language resulted in only the less-deaf children being able to succeed and being praised while the more-deaf children were ignored and regarded as failures. More-deaf children resented their less deaf peers and often deaf people of all levels would try and cover up signs of hearing/oralism from the Deaf political world for fear of being bullied by the people who were most cut out by oralism.

    I think I agree with Paddy that a lot of the *ouch* in our D/deaf spaces "I don't like X deaf people cos I was bullied by them for a Y feature of my deafness" "I was an X deafie bullied by Y deafies so I don't like them" etc etc is absolutely because of political oralism which was how structural audism is often manifested. The personal pain is caused by the wider structural and institutional world in which we all live and are affected by.

    I strongly believe that deaf people as individuals need to educate ourselves all round about different deaf cultures and communities as well as structural audism to put our personal *ouches* into context and try to understand one another's perspectives and experiences rather than the actually endless infighting!

    Paddy talked a LOT about bilingualism and how he would like to see all deaf children given access to sign language so that we have a true choice in the deaf and hearing worlds. This is what I would like to have had for myself so this resonated with me. It is so much harder to learn sign language as an adult than as a child. I'd also say we should be given access to ranges of tools/options, lipreading, assertiveness, cueing, and anything else I've missed. Classes should be available for adults for reasonable cost or free for those of us who are deaf.

    Also to my surprise Paddy wasn't hardcore on Deafhood being only for big D political British Sign Language as primary/preferred language deafies. He very clearly talked of deafhood changing and how new ideas contribute to that. The description he gave made me feel like *I* have a right to a deafhood.

    Paddy talked about changes in the Deaf community with more and more using hearing aids (and hiding them less in Deaf space) and getting cochlea implants and still signing and stuff. He talked about people signing and speaking freely, removing competition and removing sense of shame for having aspects for hearing culture.

    That to me seemed so pertinent. We're fighting cos we're competing. It's not a zero sum game. There are limited resources, but we could be working so much cleverer (and a lot kinder) with one another.

    The episode also covered many people who don't really deafine (oh heck, typo, I'm leaving that one in cos it is apt) as Deaf or deaf/HOH but as a bit of both in different contexts. One of the case study people used the term SSH - sign, speak, hear - which I liked as a bit of all that works.

    Paddy also talked a bit about WHO makes the decisions about deaf people, is it us, or is it the wider society? Are we included and involved in the processes. Focus should be on quality deaf education, analysis of achievement and creating an actually working model to work from without vested interests guiding agendas.

    Paddy's views on genetic eradication of deafness were more like his 1985 views on cochlea implants as he felt this really was the final solution. He seemed more resigned to an inevitable but said that there needed to be clear thinking and full policies from deaf communities engaging with this. If BSL is protected properly as a language, this will matter less because UN Convention on Human Rights protects languages and their users.

    I am not sure legal language protection means an awful lot in practice but this makes a lot more sense to me than some of the other reasons why BSL campaigners seem to think BSL is special in terms of basic rights to "communication support" and "education" compared to non signing options available and preferred/needed by many of us which I feel should be fought on a mostly shared platform not separated and divided ones!

    I am less worried by genetics. Very few people's deafness is genetic. Only 13% of people are born with their impairments. There are people born deaf from non-genetic deafness or spurious genetic conditions. Fewer than 10% of deaf children are born to deaf parents meaning that most of the deaf community has been coming from non deaf homes. Thanks to vaccines I am of the last generation of infants deafened by Measles and Rubella; meningitis is down a great deal and there's greater awareness of symptoms. Some people are still deafened. Some of us still have random deafnesses. At this point I don't see genetic options being forced on people and like with cochlea implants I suspect the outcome won't quite be what any of us expect.


    I am fascinated by the difference in how different deaf people/groups have perceived this See Hear episode. I felt it was largely positive. See Hear does have a BSL bias, some which I feel is fair enough and acknowledged and some which I think is claimed not to be a bias when it totally is (e.g. way presenter describes/praises a signing person vs a mostly-oral person in the summing up of random stuff).

    By See Hear standards this episode was amazingly accepting of different models of deafhood! Then again, it promoted a bilingualism model that I would like as my own... For those deaf people who do not wish to use sign language I could see how it would be perceived differently...

    I need to think about how to talk about deafhoods and the different lived experiences and needs and how to try and get us all playing nicely in the sandbox together, recognising, understanding and respecting one another's narratives, hurts and hopes. A lot to think about.
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    If you're a BSL user...
    If you are a British Sign Language (BSL) using deaf person it can be commonly assumed that you will automatically have unfixable difficulties with literacy and written English into adulthood.

    If you're an Oralie...
    If you are a deaf person who uses residual hearing (maybe with hearing aids and or cochlea implants) and speech then there's no recognition that you may also have less access to language than hearing people and may still retain difficulties with written English into adulthood.

    Language deprivation and impairment in D/deaf people discussed a bit more )
    My experience of language impairment )
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    Receiving an incoming call from a textphone user via TextRelay


    *ring ring* *ring ring*

    Please hold for an operator-assisted call from a textphone user

    The computerised female voice telling you that you are the lucky recipient of a TextRelay call

    For more information about Textphones and TextRelay see my post deaf and speech impaired people's access to telephony or the UK's TextRelay website.

    Hanging up on the scary recorded message is common


    This voice is so much like automated spam that I am not surprised so many people hang up on it as soon as they hear "computerised voice". I almost expect to be hung up on by 75% of organisations or recipients not used to receiving calls via TextRelay.

    I'll generally forgive one hang-up by someone who hasn't used relay before. However it's often 2, 3 or even 4 or more hangups on the recorded message or even a live operator themselves that gets tiring and stressful. Sometimes TextRelay can redial for me, so I don't get another call-connection charge, but sometimes I have to redial from scratch which is slow due to all the connecty gubbins that has to happen.

    Hanging up on TextRelay users is unlawful as well as annoying!


    I should also point out that it is unlawful for an organisation to hang up on a relay user or refuse to accept the call as it is disability discrimination under the Equality Act 2010 access to goods and services by denial of service. There is case law Gordon Waring v DCW Private Hire Cullingworth Taxis.

    I have occasionally had staff at an organisation be very rude to me (taxi firms are notorious) and the operator on relay and refuse to take my call. I usually try and follow this up with a complaint because on one occasion they did apologise and promise to train their staff.

    Please do take TextRelay calls - hold the line


    The best thing to do if you hear Please hold for an operator-assisted call from a textphone user is hold the line and follow the instructions. Even if the message turns out to be spam, they can't charge money to your phonebill while you just listen and it is at worst a few seconds of your time.

    You may also hear Please wait. Please wait before an operator connects but they should connect within a minute or two.

    TextRelay Operator connects into the call


    Once the relay operator (sometimes called relay assistant) connects they will say something like
    Hello, you have a call from a deaf or speech impaired person and I will be relaying the call. Please say "go ahead" when you have finished speaking.

    You can ask the operator at any time to explain or clarify how to use the service as this may not be automatically offered due to customer preference testing.

    Turn taking on a relay call


    Calls via TextRelay can currently only allow one person to speak at a time, much like a radio. This is because of the mixed modes of the call.

    If you say yes to receiving the call, the textphone using caller will get the first turn to speak. If you have said who you are, this doesn't always get passed on. You can say "Yes, I accept this call, please say it's James on the line. Go Ahead

    Once you have said Go ahead the operator will let the textphone user know it is their turn.

    The textphone user may type their response to you, or they may speak it (see my TextRelay modes post for more info).

    Textphone user is typing their responses


    If the response is typed, (possibly the more common way TextRelay is used) the operator will speak what is typed to you. The operator will do their best but may mispronounce unfamiliar words.

    When the textphone user has finished typing they will type GA to let the operator know to tell you it is your turn again. When it is your turn the operator will be typing what you say to the textphone user, they are not verbatim typists so speaking slowly and clearly will be helpful.

    See my my post about TextRelay modes for more information.

    Textphone user is speaking for themselves (VCO)


    If the response is spoken, this is a mode called Voice Carry Over (VCO) you will hear the caller as you usually would, but you cannot interrupt or speak until the operator tells you that it is your turn.

    It will take 1-2 seconds of apparent silence to switch from the textphone user speaking back to your turn as the relay operator is switched in and out of the call.

    The Textphone user does not have the option to hear you speaking - this will change with BT's Next Generation Text Relay due to go live in April 2014!

    Textphone user speaks for themselves (for speech impaired users)


    Speech impaired people may use the Hearing Carry Over (HCO) mode of TextRelay where they speak for themselves and type their responses for the Relay Operator to speak to you.

    In this case the operator will speak for the speech impaired person but your spoken responses will go directly to them to hear as usual.

    I don't know much about HCO mode or HCO users. There is also not much about it on TextRelay's website.
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    Deaf and speech impaired people's access to telephones


    People who are deaf or speech impaired can use a textphone to access telephony. A textphone (sometimes called a Minicom like vacuum cleaners are called hoovers) is basically a keyboard bolted onto a modem cutting edge 1980s technology! In America a textphone is called a TTY. A textphone costs between £200 and £350 new.

      

    Images are of a Minicom 6000 a brand of textphone which has a keyboard and a set of acoustic coupling cups on the top, a Geemarc Screenphone which is a modern voice carry over textphone with a handset and large screen but no keyboard and a Uniphone 1140 which is another textphone with a keyboard and a handset


    Historically textphone users could only call other textphone users which was an improvement on relying on friends and family to relay or make telephone calls but still limited to people and organisations which owned a textphone. This mode can still be used by textphone users.


    Image is a diagram of two textphone users connected to one another with a double ended arrow


    Relay services between textphone and telephone users


    In the 1980s the first UK Relay service then called TypeTalk was set up by RNID and BT. A relay service involves a relay operator joining the call to type to the textphone user and speak to the telephone user.

    I am avoiding using the terms deaf/hearing to be inclusive as not all relay users will fall into the deaf/hearing categories..



    Image is a diagram of a relay operator typing and speaking to relay calls between a textphone user and telephone user. The textphone user and telephone user have double headed arrows between themselves and the operator but no connection to one another


    The UK relay service is now called TextRelay but many people still call it by its old name TypeTalk. Textrelay has a website at http://www.textrelay.org/

    Calls via TextRelay are usually eligible for an automatic 60% call-rebate to account for the extra time these calls take so the users are not disadvantaged by higher call costs.

    Making a TextRelay call


    A TextRelay call can be initiated or received by either a textphone or a telephone user.

    Hearing telephone user initiating a phonecall to textphone user via TextRelay


    You need to dial 18002 before the full number of a textphone user to relay the call via TextRelay.

    There will probably be some automated recorded instructions in a flat computerised female voice saying something like Welcome to BT TextDirect or TextRelay please hold for connection

    These instructions will tell you what to do and should be followed until the operator connects (there can sometimes be a few minutes delay if it is busy).

    Once connected the relay operator should ask you if you know how the service works, but if they don't, you can ask them to explain it. The textphone user will be given EXPLAINING TEXTRELAY PLS WAIT... messages at this point so they know what's causing a delay.

    The relay operator will explain that you the caller and recipient need to take turns to communicate like a radio conversation. When you have finished your turn you should say "go ahead" or "over". This lets the textphone user know it is their turn.

    Each side communicates in turn with go ahead/GA between each. Don't talk if it's not your turn as some relay operators will type that while the textphone user is typing and that causes a mixture of operator typing and textphone typing on the screen which is horrible and confusing for the textphone user.

    When you want to end the call after saying goodbye etc you can say "stopping" so the operator knows to type SK SK which is short for 'stop keying'.

    If your phoneline doesn't allow 18002 to be dialed (common on some workplace systems) contact your telecoms provider for advice, but be prepared for them not to know very much. Ask them to contact the TextRelay customer service for advice on how to set up their systems.

     

    Deaf or speech impaired textphone user phoning someone via TextRelay


    A deaf or speech impaired textphone user uses their textphone to dial 18001 before the full telephone number of the telephone user they wish to call. Each textphone has a different way of dialing, you can find many textphone manuals on textrelay's website athttp://www.textrelay.org/downloads.php

    Once you have dialed the textphone will display call progress information from TextRelay starting with

    Dialing the number: TXD DIALING 18001 0121 ### ####

    Waiting for the other side to pick up: TXD RING TXD RING TXD RING

    If line is engaged TXD ENGAGED SKSK

    Once line is answered, waiting for an operator to connect: TXD CONNECTING TEXTRELAY TXD CONNECTING TEXTRELAY

    Operator connects and is explaining TextRelay to the other person: TXD OPERATOR CONNECTED PLS WAIT EXPLAINING TEXT RELAY PLEASE WAIT

    You will finally be put through with something like HELLO GA
    if the person has given their name already it is 50:50 if the operator passes it on.

    It is now time for you to type something yourself - e.g. Hello, this is Natalya, who is speaking pls? GA or Hello, this is Natalya, am I speaking to Ahmed Patel pls? GA

    The GA is needed to let the other person know when to speak, you shouldn't type without your GA and they shouldn't try to speak theirs although an operator may relay (type) what is being said anyway. I think some operators tell the other person not to do this, others just type over you resulting in a mixture of in/out typing. This can also happen if you type when it's not your turn. If this happens, I recommend not typing till the typing has finished, and if it is your turn either ask the operator not to do that by typing (note to operator....) or asking the other person not to talk out of turn.

    When you are ready to end the call you can sign off Thanks ever so much for your help. Bye SKSK or Thanks, bye. BIBISKSK

    I am usually polite and remain on the line till the other person has also said SK SK and THANK YOU FOR USING TEXTRELAY comes up in case there is anything else but many people hang up as soon as they have SKed.

    Other messages you may come across using TextRelay on a Textphone


    If your recipient hangs up before the operator connects NO ONE ON-LINE, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REDIAL? GA You should be able to say Yes pls GA but sometimes the line is dead and you will need to redial manually which is annoying (and costs you another call connection charge).

    If the other person hangs up after operator connects: CALLED PARTY HAS HUNG UP, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REDIAL? GA this time saying yes should work as there is definitely an operator there.

    Sometimes an operator is pulled out of your call to handle an emergency, you will get an INTERRUPT OPERATOR CALLED TO EMERGENCY CALL type message followed by TXD CONNECTING TEXTRELAY TXD CONNECTING TEXTRELAY while waiting for a new operator who usually connects in within a minute.

    Other TextRelay calling prefixes


    180015 is for textphone users to dialanother textphone or minicom number to get the 60% call rebate and more useful progress messages. This cannot be used by telephone users. Some telecoms providers don't offer the call rebate even though they should be doing it. You can contact TextRelay's customer service if you want advice on this.

    18000 is the TextRelay equivalent of 999 and will get you an operator instantly - they will pull operators off an existing call if needed.

    Using TextRelay without a textphone


    As of January 2014 it is not very easy to use TextRelay without a textphone. This should change in April 2014 with Next Generation Text Relay (I can't wait!).

    While in theory councils and social services can provide textphones many deaf people find that this isn't possible in reality as there's limited budgets and often it's a choice between fire safety and other equipment and a textphone. Some people have had success by challenging initial refusals...

    It is possible to set up a laptop and a modem but instructions are hard to find. There is also Aupix PhoneRelay software at http://www.aupix.com/tcphone/relay but this doesn't have the 60% call rebate and can be quite expensive.
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    I opened a bank account with the bank whose logo looks like a steaming turd. Their service can't be any worse than NatWest and they're open till 6 on my working days on my way home from work so I can do face to face banking like cashing cheques easily.

    I had already called in and asked what I needed to open the account and was told just a passport. I chucked in a rent invoice, credit card statement and payslip just in case. I did just need the passport but could get the agent to copy things like my address from the paper rather than trying to read it out.

    The agent was very pleasant but it was interesting seeing what assumptions she made about me. I said straight away I was a staff member and not a student (I don't think I pass as a student much these days anyway).

    She asked what my title was suggesting Miss and Mrs, neither which I use, I'd prefer no title but was too tired to debate trying to go titleless so said "Ms". Later in the process I was asked my living situation and she wrote down single, I said I wasn't single and I was "civilised" and asked what status that was, she said "oh, living with partner"...

    Then when filling in the credit checking thing which I presume needs to be accurate she clicked the boxes for "single" so again I said "I'm not legally single, I'm in a civil partnership" at which point she double-taked and said something about me not using the title Mrs. I don't think know a single civilised woman who has changed her title to Mrs...

    She happily changed it to married/in civil partnership option the dropdown but it did make me wonder how much presumption there is made by titles or lack thereof and whether my friends are weird in not using Mrs very much and many preferring no title like myself, Ms if they must and sometimes Miss...

    I will see if I get stupid calls on my mobile from the bank as I don't think the agent was able to make the mobile the non-preferred contact method. I was wary to give my mobile at all having said I had no landline and that being fine, but she did imply just for texts... If they phone it, I'll simply DPA them to remove the data from their records cos I can't answer it in voice.

    The nice thing is for the uni branch only, and probably preferably from my uni email address I can email the agent if I have any questions and usually get a reply within a day which is nice. I wish all banks had email contact tho!

    So yeah we'll see if this works smoothly. 7-10 days for bank cards and stuff, two batches of two things for phone and Internet banking in next 2 weeks.

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